There is a Paradigm Shift Now in Progress

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  1. PPark66

    PPark66 Well-Known Member

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    A complete shift as described I doubt, changes? Hell, yeah.

    For instance a contrary point we’re learning we can’t manufacture a good as quickly as we could fifty years ago.

    I could see a shift in our economic priorities, a Main Street balancing if you will. An evaluation of our action and inaction over the past decades.
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Countries are closing their borders to protect their own citizens within their sovereign countries. Canada shut the borders this week. The EU announced today they will shut out non-member states from entering, and within the EU, Italy has completely isolated itself. Nothing like the People of Planet Earth deciding that national sovereignty isn't such a bad idea.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    The MAJORITY of illegals arrive here via legal ports of entry.

    Those seeking Asylum surrender to the Border Patrol and can be tested by them.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    The adoption of the internet was a paradigm shift that altered the way we communicate and shop.

    This paradigm shift is going to alter the way we understand healthcare and international travel.

    We are only as healthy as the person with the highest risk of contracting an infectious disease. And this applies WORLDWIDE. Health standards for food handling are going to be raised internationally so as to minimize another Pandemic of his nature.

    Likewise with travel between nations. In Africa they never stopped their Ebola testing at all ports of entry and so they had the infrastructure in place to catch the spread of Covid-19. That explained why it took so much longer for it to get there. If we instituted Testing at ALL points of entry in ALL nations that would be a much more effective early warning system of an outbreak.

    Those measures can then be combined with Containment and Tracing to ensure that any outbreak is limited in scope.

    So combined that would be a Paradigm Shift in how we approach healthcare on a worldwide scale.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Too little, too late!
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Migrants who come through ports of entry are not illegals. They are entering legally, and they get immunizations. Illegals sneak in between legal ports....and the U.S. has had Measles outbreaks that we had previously wiped out. in this country.
     
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    Yes. New reports out of Beijing indicate that they knew about the virus in the middle of November, not December like they told the world. They still encouraged hundreds of millions of Asian expatriates from all over the world to travel to China, and billions of people within Asia traveled to and fro to Wuhan for the annual Spring Festival for the tourism money. By the time they shut down Wuhan and the Hubei Province they knew the virus would spread globally.

    We aren't going to have a global paradigm shift to happiness and sunshine as "one people of the Earth" as long as one or two powerful countries lie to everyone and want to become a new Communist global power, replacing the current Democratic and Republic economic engines of the world.
     
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    People who come here on tourists visas and stay after they have expired are illegals. There are a couple of hundred thousand of these white illegals from Eastern Europe. The MAJORITY of illegals arrived here on visas.

    The Measles outbreaks are caused by the Anti-Vaccination movement that needs to be SUED for the all of the harm they have caused IMO.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    So what?

    None of the above excuses the FAILURE of the criminal IMPOTUS to PROTECT We the People. He was doing the same thing as those Chinese leaders that you are condemning. Why does he get a pass when they don't?
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, there are illegals who overstay visas. They aren't the majority.

    If there were no Measles cases inside the U.S. for years, then they came from outside the U.S.
     
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    Almost every single president, king, monarch, and dictator around the world has told their people "Everything's going to be all right." That's what they do....try to console the people and avoid panic while the scientists and medical experts try to get things under control.

    However, China hiding the virus for 2 months, knowing that it was growing exponentially, and allowing people to travel there from all over the world was a crime against humanity. That's the only country whose leadership is worthy of blame.

    Oh well. The people of just about every country are blaming the virus response on whoever their president or ruler is right now. Heads of individual governments in the EU are shifting blame to leadership of the EU instead of themselves. Since you're American, go ahead and vent and rage against Trump if it makes you feel better to have a target for your angst. You have that luxury. In China, the government kills people for that. We're lucky.
     
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    No one would have caught measles if everyone was VACCINATED against it!
     
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    Whataboutism does NOT excuse the egregious FAILURES of your criminal IMPOTUS but it does say VOLUMES about his supporters.
     
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    I don't hate anyone with every fibre of my being. And I have always been a glass half full type of person. Please don't presume to know me.

    I don't think that Trump is a good president or representative of these united states. I believe he bungled the communication and handling of this virus from the beginning.

    And I don't think that it is negative to believe that my country is not 'the greatest'. Great? Yes. Greatest? No.
     
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    We rarely agree but we do on this. We need to rebuild our domestic manufacturing capability
     
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    -Your dislike of President Trump is more than apparent. Whether you want to parse words on how to explain that dislike is a colossal waste of time.

    - While I typically pay more attention to what someone does rather than what they say, I will make an exception and take you at your word that you are a glass is half full type person. With that being said, it is obvious that your claimed glass is half full personality exists, unless of course it involves President Trump, then all bets are off. See above.

    -What are the odds that he completely bungled the handling of this virus, and yet the United States is among the few countries with an extremely low death rate per million residents? How do you reconcile that undeniable reality with your all encompassing declaration that he has bungled this situation?

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    Do you acknowledge that our death rate per million is shockingly low in comparison to all other major countries that have frequent international travel?

    Do you think that halting travel from China (back in January during the impeachment hearings, a move which Biden condemned and called xenophobic) was a good move? Do you suppose that move may be responsible for our current low death rate per million as compared with the majority of the civilized world?
     
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    Will you also agree with me that we also need to maintain a national ability to be self sufficient in energy? In all of its forms?
     
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    I saw the thread title and thought it was going to be about something important like Tom Brady leaving the Patriots.
     
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    At this moment in time, America is full thank you very much.
     
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    I understand the point you are trying to make, but your statement is not factual. The measles vaccine is only 97% effective. That’s great, and a good reason to get vaccinated. But vaccinated people can, and do get the measles.
     
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    Right. If Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala vaccinated or if those people came through legal ports of entry, we would have vaccinated them and not had an outbreak of 3rd world disease in the country.
     
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    The devil is in the details. What does "in all its forms" actually mean?
     
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    WRONG

    Where Does Illegal Immigration Mostly Occur? Here's What The Data Tell Us

    Most undocumented immigrants didn't enter this country through Tijuana, where news cameras have captured images of thousands of immigrants seeking refuge during recent months.

    And they didn't enter near the border town of McAllen, Texas, which the president visited Thursday during the 20th day of a partial government shutdown fought over constructing additional barriers on the Southern border.

    When it comes to people in the country without proper documentation, the majority of them didn't cross the Mexican border at all. Most of them came to the United States legally — but then don't leave.

    About 700,000 travelers to the United States overstayed their visas in fiscal 2017, the most recent year for which the Department of Homeland Security has published figures. DHS estimated that, as of Sept. 30, 2017, the end of that fiscal year, more than 600,000 of those travelers were still in the U.S.

    During that same year, there were just 300,000 apprehensions along the Southern border, according to Customs and Border Protection — the lowest number since 1971.


     
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    Our vulnerability to relatively small shocks in the system really stands out in such crisis.
     

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