THere is something WRONG with the empathy, or lack, of right wingers.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Guyzilla, Jun 24, 2017.

  1. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2011
    Messages:
    10,835
    Likes Received:
    3,818
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Is this some sort of weird response to my statement about being a foster parent? I'm not religious at all, but I've known quite a few couples in the different agencies I've been a part of that join because of their religious convictions. There were plenty of liberal families too. If you're genuinely concerned I suggest you volunteer. There's always a need, and you can help even if you don't have space in your home.
     
    roorooroo likes this.
  2. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2011
    Messages:
    10,835
    Likes Received:
    3,818
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Solutions to problems happen locally far more successfully than they happen globally. You're much better at helping someone in need that's right in front of you then you are by imagining someone's need and fixing the imagined problem with your imagination.
     
  3. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2016
    Messages:
    43,684
    Likes Received:
    19,290
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How do you establish which human life has more value? And who should establish it? Insurance companies?
     
  4. Belch

    Belch Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2015
    Messages:
    16,275
    Likes Received:
    4,479
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Another vote for charity.

    As for the possibility of either method letting him starve, you are correct. Your method is the same because there's a very good chance the kid should be in school learning how to make his own sandwiches, but it's a lot easier to ask for charity.
     
  5. Conviction

    Conviction Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 5, 2016
    Messages:
    3,235
    Likes Received:
    829
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yeah we Republicans need to shoot democrat representatives to show empathy...

    Oh wait that's liberal empathy.
     
    Liberty4Ransom likes this.
  6. Belch

    Belch Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2015
    Messages:
    16,275
    Likes Received:
    4,479
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes, which is why we have all these different layers of governments, and politicians. Senators are closer to the people they represent than members of congress, just as mayors are closer than governors. So how come everybody is asking the federal government to become a delicatessen?
     
  7. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2008
    Messages:
    24,559
    Likes Received:
    15,849
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Bill Clinton summed it up best when he said that right-wingers think you're on your own while dems believe that we're in it together.
     
    Bowerbird and PeppermintTwist like this.
  8. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2016
    Messages:
    43,684
    Likes Received:
    19,290
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Which group is for letting people who are trying to escape a civil war just die? Which group opposes providing cancer screening for women who can't afford it? Which group is for leaving 20 million people without health insurance, knowing that many of them will die when they can't afford going to the doctor? Which group wants to eliminate the safety net that allows poor children to eat?... and I could go on and on....

    If the people on the right does have empathy, then why do they keep electing leaders that don't show it on any of their political fights? None whatsoever!

    The left and the right are not equivalent in this country (they might be in others). Do you see that?
     
    Bowerbird likes this.
  9. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,723
    Likes Received:
    46,522
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Purely for illustration.

    My point was that, while you have a right to a lawyer, you are still going to be paying unless you literally have nothing to sell.

    When you do get your free lawyer....well....someone graduated last in their class.

    So while you can say or push for a "right" to health care, it doesn't mean you're going to receive good, or even adequate, care....or that you won't be paying as much as you are now anyway.

    EDIT: A good lawyer might not do those things, but they can save your life regardless.
     
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2017
  10. Liberty4Ransom

    Liberty4Ransom Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2017
    Messages:
    2,313
    Likes Received:
    1,931
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    great examples of left wing empathy.
    [​IMG]
     
    vman12 likes this.
  11. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,723
    Likes Received:
    46,522
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sure. I have no problem with legal immigration.

    The problem you have with your analogy, is that doctors decide who they accept payment from.

    The best doctors and best care will still be outside the reach of those who cannot pay for it.
     
  12. Belch

    Belch Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2015
    Messages:
    16,275
    Likes Received:
    4,479
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You mean like this?
    [​IMG]
     
  13. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,723
    Likes Received:
    46,522
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Can you send me some money?
     
    roorooroo likes this.
  14. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,723
    Likes Received:
    46,522
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, I'd be interested in why he either can't take care of himself, or if young, isn't being taken care of and fix the root of the problem.
     
  15. PeppermintTwist

    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2014
    Messages:
    16,704
    Likes Received:
    12,220
    Trophy Points:
    113
    :applause:
     
  16. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2011
    Messages:
    10,835
    Likes Received:
    3,818
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I don't establish that. My premise doesn't require that. Yours does. You believe some third party authority should have the ability to determine who can pay and who can't. The third party should have the ability to determine the distribution of a resource. How is that any different? How does that eliminate the value decision you're worried about? It doesn't. It makes it worse because it further removes the decision from the two people that it matters most to, the party receiving the care, and the party providing the care.
     
    roorooroo and IMMensaMind like this.
  17. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,723
    Likes Received:
    46,522
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The real truth is that right wingers want people to be able to feed themselves, the left just wants to keep handing them other people's sandwiches.
     
    IMMensaMind and Map4 like this.
  18. politicalcenter

    politicalcenter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2011
    Messages:
    11,141
    Likes Received:
    6,826
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    And my premise is simple. It is immoral to gut healthcare in order to make more money available to people that have so much. To cut capital gains taxes and cut Medicare is wrong. Especially when a poor person earned the same money for gainful employment would be charged as income therefore paying a higher rate.
     
  19. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2015
    Messages:
    72,146
    Likes Received:
    92,333
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I'm not going to bother reading this hate thread except to ask where was this college professor's compassion for Otto Warmbier?

     
  20. Liberty4Ransom

    Liberty4Ransom Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2017
    Messages:
    2,313
    Likes Received:
    1,931
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Leftist want to use other people's money to try and fix problems, so they can feel good about themselves. They hardly ever put any skin in the game themselves.

    That's why I find most of them pretty detestable.
     
  21. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,723
    Likes Received:
    46,522
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Not sure, but I bet the prof. is both white and well-off.

    EDIT:

    explained:

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2017
  22. Liberty4Ransom

    Liberty4Ransom Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2017
    Messages:
    2,313
    Likes Received:
    1,931
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Just curious, what charities do you donate to?
    Where do you volunteer your time?
     
  23. Kode

    Kode Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2016
    Messages:
    26,682
    Likes Received:
    7,533
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Hey, the bottom line is that the deplorables (Republicans) have in 7 years done nothing to develop a healthcare system. There has been no expert testimony, no studies, no consultations or inclusion of Democrats in the process of developing this rushed, haphazard, half-azzed "bill", –and now, as hard as it is to believe, McConnell plans to bring the actual bill (not the draft) to the floor of Congress at the time Congress will be required to vote on it. How much more does anyone need to know that the Republicans are trying very hard to hide something that cannot stand the light of day? But we already know what that is.

    Wait till the people show up in the streets, protesting and demanding single-payer in a reaction to this.
     
  24. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2011
    Messages:
    10,835
    Likes Received:
    3,818
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What's immoral is taking something that you didn't produce from someone that did without compensation no matter what your motives are. It doesn't matter if you're taking the labor of a doctor, the resources of someone you define as rich, or the choices of a person you define as poor. It's naturally wrong, everyone who participates in society knows it, and it's the downfall of every artificial distribution system the progressives dream up.
     
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2017
    roorooroo likes this.
  25. politicalcenter

    politicalcenter Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2011
    Messages:
    11,141
    Likes Received:
    6,826
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So taking capital gains is wrong. Got it.
     
    Bowerbird likes this.

Share This Page