There is THE RIGHT, but not THE LEFT

No it's not, the majority of the current Congress is filled with establishment never-Trumpers. If the GOP was the party of Trump, he'd have the wall and Obamacare would be gone.

 

So.........Dems are trying to win elections, just like Repubs. The difference being, Dems want to make it easier for legal voters to vote and Repubs do not.

 

Making it easier for anyone, legal or not, to vote, is an interesting way to go about it.

And then there is the Dems racist beliefs they bring to the issue.

I guess it's "win at all costs".

 

I can see why you'd think that but listening to his ideas and reasoning makes sense in a changing world, this is a man who sees the shitstorm over the hill and at least has a potential solution, which is far more than you can say about any other Democratic candidate. He's not like a Kamala or Booker where they want to give reparations to descendants of slaves for absolutely nothing. If I were American, I would firmly be supporting Donald Trump but out of the million or so DNC candidates, I think Yang is the most sensible and viable.

 

Dude being the best candidate in the Democratic party right now is a lot like being the smartest kid in special ed.

 

Indeed! Imagine a world in which no parties existed...only individuals running for and holding office. There would be no voting along party lines - instead, voting for ideas.

 

An interesting set of assumptions here. Also, an interesting statement about what you think being a Republican is all about. I would point out that perhaps it isn't so much that Trump doesn't represent the things important to you, but as you've aged, those things you find important have changed, and you don't see those priorities perhaps in where the current flow of conservatism is heading..

I'll also point out that the entire field of democrats running so far for 2020 have rejected everything traditional or conservative. I find it difficult to believe that someone who suggests that they consider themselves conservative would be able to reconcile themselves to support of actual socialists. That seem very problematic for you.

 

Agreed!

 

Is that better than the current democrat party now being the Alexandria Occasional Cortex party?

 

When Bill Clinton moved to the republican view, he managed to get much more done that worked. Absent his moral code problems, more credit today would fall to him.

Carter was the last best chance for Democrats to wake up and fly right. He was the father of deregulation and it allowed Reagan to follow up. But today's bumper crop of Democrats are intolerant and intolerable at the same time. I see no cooperation with them that results in good government. I say this as a former loyal Democrat.

 

As you know, that is not what they're doing.

 

As you know, that is exactly what they are doing. You're well aware of the vote harvesting that took place in California, and how it breaks the chain of custody for cast ballots. You also know California removed the legal penalties for illegal aliens who vote by "mistake".

 

We won't know who conquers the Democratic Party until the primaries. Funny part is that you don't even realize that you are agreeing with me. We don't want ideologues to take over the Democratic Party the way they took over the Republican Party. In the Democratic Party, at this point, we don't even know if there are any ideologues. Very few.....if any.

 

LOL, nice try . A couple of points:

1. The entire world knows, Trump may be many things, ideologue he is not by any stretch of imagination.

2. The dem party has already been hijacked by its uber-leftist, socialist/globalist, ideologically rigid wing of the party.... Don't take my word for it, ask Pelosi, Chelsea Clinton, anyone else who deviates from their orthodoxy by an inch. The dems created a monster they can't control anymore, worse, the monster's control over the dem party is growing exponentially. Regardless who the Dem party nominates, if god forbid he/she is elected, he will be a puppet, fully controlled by this radical, violent, intolerant, loud and nasty leftist beast.

 

No. He is manipulated by the ideologues.

Quote them, please. Unless it's just another talking point you heard on Hannity, Rush or their echo chamber. And I'll bet that's what it is. As the absence of a quote will demonstrate.

 

Quote? LOL Dude, we look at actions, not words. The dem party has surrendered to its violent rigid ideologically extremist and intolerant socialist wing... When all candidates are running on an extremist uber-leftist, socialist agenda, when Pelosi can't pass an innocuous resolution against antisemitism and Chelsea Clinton (who is married to a Jewish guy and is carrying a jewish child) can't speak up against antisemitism without being attacked and abused, when radicals in the party get away with racism, rape, violence, when AOC, not Pelosi is considered to be in charge of the party and she feels comfortable to threaten other democrats with primary challenges... the writing is on the wall. Actions speak louder than words and louder than quotes

Pray tell, who are those RW ideologues who manipulate Trump into cracking down on non-paying NATO members, implementing tariffs, cancelling/renegotiating free trade agreements.... We are all ears.

 

Quote! Yes! It's those things when you accuse somebody of saying something, you write their words verbatim, and show on a link where youi got those words from.

My God! Don't they teach vocabulary in wingnut schools?

If you show a quote, we know you are making a point. If you don't, we know you are repeating a Limbaugh/Hannity talking point. Because they never use quotes.

Anything else is nonsense.

NATO? What the hell does NATO have to do with ideology? It's only Wednesday, man! You should at least wait till the weekend.....

 

I could not help but notice, I wonder if you did:

-You've failed to provide the names of RW ideologues who manipulated Trump into cracking down on non-paying NATO members, implementing tariffs, cancelling/renegotiating free trade agreements....

-You've failed to explain/refute the actions and events I specified, demonstrating clearly that the Democratic party has been overtaken by its insane, violent, ideologically rigid socialist wing. Bleating "ignore their actions, give me a quote in which they admit that they are clinically insane, radical and intolerant" is a pathetic deflection.

Checkmate.

 

I don't know of any ideologue who has any interest on NATO. Last one I remember was Reagan.

Now.... Where is my quote? Are you just trying to wiggle out? Of course you are. Because you know you're just mindlessly repeating garbage you heard on the radio.

 

-So you can't back up your claim that Trump is manipulated by ideologues. I gave you several of Trump's signature accomplishments, you've failed miserably to show how he is manipulated by ideologues.

-and you can't refute my list of events and actions clearly showing that the Dem party is held hostage by and is doing the bidding of its insane, uber-liberal, intolerant socialist wing.

Figures.

 

And here is your quote:

We have been documenting the Democratic Party's drift to the fringe left for many years. New polling data from Gallup show that its transformation into a far-left socialist party is more or less complete
https://www.investors.com/politics/...e-officially-taken-over-the-democratic-party/

 

Pretty typical of the party out of power, yes?

 

Sure. I sent a video. And did you see how he was OK with the budget this year, but suddenly wasn't because Anne Coulter tweeted that it didin't include funding for the wall?

Now.... stop changing the subject! Where is my quote!

Accomplishments? NATO? What the hell does that have to do with your claim.

You said that Nancy Pelosi claimed that Chelsea Clinton had had said that the Democratic Party had been hijacked by the extreme left. You failed to produce a quote. And you will not produce one. Therefore, I have proven once again, that you mindlessly repeat crap you hear on wingnut radio because of your inability to think for yourself.

You are about the 6th Trump loyalist on this forum I have proven this about. So you're not alone. And you won't be the last.

Another one down!

 

You quote a wingnut blogger? You claim that Nancy Pelosi and Chelsea Clinton said that the Democratic Party had been taken over by the extreme left.... but when asked for a quote,.... after days of searching.... the best you can come up with is a quote from a wingnut blogger ?

Sorry dude... you had your opportunity to be taken seriously.... and you blew it!

 

- you claimed Trump is manipulated by ideologues, when i confronted you with Trump's signature policies (i.e. tariffs, NATO, trade agreements) you failed to name ideologues manipulating Trump. Checkmate

-I gave you specific actions and events demonstrating beyond any doubt that the dem party has been taken hostage by its extremist, socialist, rigidly ideological wing. You have failed to refute that. Checkmate.

- AOS said that she is the boss. Indeed, Pelosi is reduced to doing her bidding and Chelsea Clinton married to a Jewish man and carrying a Jewish child was reduced to apologizing for her condemnation of anti-Semitism....you have failed to refute these facts. Checkmate.

That you are reduced to making things up shows how badly defeated and outmatched you are. I've never claimed that. Duh