There they go again.

Good Job you posted four links that don't prove anything you said. The first has nothing to do with legislation and the other three don't as well. Four statement from leftist orgs posting horsecrap as if it disproves anything I said. when in fact it disproves nothing. Typical leftist throw up bunch of irrelevant links and hope no one checks them.

 

Maybe you were asleep or in denial or out of the country for the last 6 years....let me clue you in; the leadership of the GOP publicly stated that their priority was to make Obama a one term President....then they logged record filibusters and obstruct as best they could ANY proposed legislation by the Democrats. Hell, even when the GOP put forth proposals that Obama approved, then reversed course the second he publicly endorsed them! (look it up, because I get tired of doing other people's homework).

Obama, for better or worse, put all his effort into getting the ACA passed....and the GOP is STILL pissed about that! So yeah, his plethora of new ideas in his recent SOTU speech may not have come at a time of yours or my liking, but given the history of events in the last 6 years, it's understandable.

Obama and company have NOT done everything I would like to see, and have done stuff I don't want to see, but I will give credit where credit is do....and call out intellectually dishonest right wingers like yourself when necessary. My opening post on this thread stands valid.

 

Please stop repeating failed right wing propaganda. Do your homework, as the ACA is responsible for only about 3% of increase in health insurance premiums.

After you educate yourself on that point, then you can try and DENY the effort by the GOP to privatize social security.....which would have screwed YOU if that had been in place in the last decade, given Wall St.

 

"I see the problem. You believe that posting a link to a left wing website constitutes argument and evidence. You are going to have to do both more and do it better if you want to be taken seriously."

Until you begin to do more than provide a link to a left wing blog what is there to discuss? The thoughts are not yours.

 

Here is an example. You link to three left wing websites. You failed to establish your argument, linking instead to others.

 

Republicans can argue about who is at fault until they're blue in the face, but one fact remains:

The Republican Party has accomplished absolutely nothing since 2008.

 

So all of the damage to the nation, its people and our liberties was done by Democrats? Thank you for confirming it.

 

The Republican Party had numerous accomplishments between 2001 and 2008, and we're still cleaning up the mess from those "accomplishments". I'm glad that the GOP hasn't done anything since 2008, because when they do, it tends to damage our nation.

That said, the Republicans have a problem facing them in the upcoming 2016 elections, because they really can't point to anything worthwhile that they have even attempted to do, much less actually gotten done.

 

Please list this damage the right wing cabal keeps screaming about? If you can't, then don't waste time and space with more smoke blowing.

 

You cannot logically or factually disprove the contents of those sites with regards to the discussion at hand. Your bluff and bluster is just that, bluff and bluster.

When you have the courage to discuss content, then I'll take you seriously.

 

All we'd have to do is hold elections on Saturdays for you to have that answer.

 

either you didn't read the information thoroughly or you're lying. Shall I start producing quotes to embarrass you? Or are you going to post to us EXACTLY what you claim is not relevant? I'll wait.

 

You know the strategy, man. Every 9th Grade Civics class student does. You send over non-starters, get the other side to shelve it, and then meet the cameras in the hallway.

 

Wonderful. So in your opinion 2001-2008 were filled with things gone wrong that this regime has spent six years cleaning up. Cool.

Establishment Republicans are nearly as bad as Democrats, I grant you that.

What do you point to for the current regime? I see a few major points. Obamacare is unconstitutional and will. transform the nation in ways we cannot recover from. Second, Obama's unconstitutional amnesty has, in my opinion, marked the beginning of the end of the United States as a free nation. This is among the most evil things I have ever seen or read about. It will, through illegal voting by illegal aliens, put the democrat party into a one-party ruling system for at least three generations.

Finally, Obama's illegal seizure of the Internet will end freedom of speech in this nation.

A rebellion is appropriate.

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Right. Do you plan to ever post anything yourself?

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There are two very obvious ones, Obamacare and amnesty. The third, coming soon is the seizure of Internet control.

We shall not recover from these three.

 

I didn't say it wasn't relevant merely that it doesn't prove what he claims it proves. It's a typical leftist trick one you find most frequently in college sociology paper where produce a wall of text and pontificate on what it means usually inaccurately. I read the first two. The logic was so obviously flawed that I just simply shook my head in disbelief that there are people who actually can't see through this trick or refuse to even try.

 

And precisely what are they supposed to accomplish aside from stopping the most pernicious pieces of trash the left wants to foist on us when the Senate and the President won't even try to negotiate in good faith?

 

Hell the Democrats have barely even done that. 13 bill amendments for all of 2014. in other times there usually that many on one bill.

 

As to Obamacare: http://www.factcheck.org/2013/09/obamacare-myths/

On Amnesty: http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/amnestybonus.asp

On Net Neutrality: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...0/support-network-neutrality-on-the-internet/

Unlike you, I'll take a long, hard look at all the facts and give credit/blame where it's due.

 

Again, you're blowing smoke but not actually saying anything specific...just spewing generalities with an emphasis on insinuations and accusations. The chronology of the posts won't let you get away with this: either you can be specific in your assertions and accusations or you can't. You can't dismiss a source and then NOT be specific as to what exactly are they saying that is wrong (in your opinion). If you can't meet a simple burden of proof, then there's no further point in engaging you in a rational, fact based discussion.

 

It doesn't matter what lies Obama and the dems tell or even if Obama threw them all in a concentration camp like a previous democrat President has done, they would still make excuses for them. There is nothing Obama and the dems could do that would be egregious enough for them to complain.

 

Again no one is claiming it's irrelevant. Merely that it doesn't support the argument as claimed. What part of that do you not understand?

 

I understand that you cannot logically or factually defend your statement in an open and fair debate forum. Anyone can make a generalized claim as you do here, backing it up as aforementioned is a whole other smoke. Clearly, you cannot, so I'll follow through with my previous conclusion. Adios.

 

Why don't you tell me how documents that start out stating that the Republicans sent 350 bills to the senate and got back 50 in response supports your lame brained assertion that it is the Republicans holding things up? Further nothing in their supports the notion that Senate Democrats were even trying to conduct business as usual in the senate. Hence fewer amendments were voteds on in the Democratically controlled senate in all of 2013 than were vote on in the Republican senate in it first two weeks.

 

the chronology of the posts makes you out to be intellectually dishonest and in denial. Hence you can repeat your absurd bit of smoke blowing here ad nausea, as it is of no avail.

 

You're repeating old mantras that were already addressed http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=391876&p=1064650571#post1064650571

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=391876&p=1064650858#post1064650858

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=391876&p=1064665678#post1064665678

http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=391876&p=1064672420#post1064672420

Seems you're just insipidly stubborn or in denial like many of your like minded brethren on this thread. No matter.