There they go again!

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by kungfuliberal, Nov 1, 2020.

  1. XploreR

    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    What a bunch of extremist BS. Whew. I can't breathe. :(
     
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    Self-quarantine. NOW!
     
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    Trump has not been able to silence the news, he wanted Trump TV, but this is not North Korea
     
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    Seems reasonable to me - why would the people who voted to give the GOP control of the senate want it to pass Biden's agenda into law?
     
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    Saved for posterity
     
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    He wanted fairness, but the fake news isn't capable of objective reporting.
     
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    Its true. History isn't going to look kindly on the democrat establishment over the last decade.
     
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    XploreR Well-Known Member

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    What are your specific concerns?
     
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    Nice try at dodging...but statistics are based on NEWS and are disseminated by private organization pollsters. So are you saying you ONLY know statistical titles but no content regarding the questions or the subject matter? And what is the source of your stats? Who are the pollsters? Come, come my good man. Give the readers something other than vague references and generalities.
     
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    True, but Greenspan could have been replaced at anytime. He had the blessing of the GOP agenda (privatization). Just saying.
     
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    The best possible outcome is actually your #2 scenario. It is an even better outcome than the Democrats taking all three. That outcome is actually the #2 worst, with Trump winning and keeping the Senate(House won't be changing hands either way) as the #1.
     
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    A total of 20 years of the Reagan/Bush control, with Slick Willy only slightly pausing the down swing for 8 years. A matter of fact, a matter of history.
     
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    Ive been very clear about that.
     
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    Perhaps, but 20 years of Reagan/Bush that brought us to a near depression isn't going to be ignored.
     
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    Its not a dodge at all, I look directly at the primary sources, and statistics to come to the only rational conclusion based on those numbers. They are objectively NOT based on "news", lmao. So while you may choose to watch the fake news to tell you what to think, doesn't mean i have too.

    For instance, when I try to decide whether or not there is an "epidemic" of police brutality. I look at the stats from the FBI, and local PDs to determine the validity of that claim.

    Turns out, the left lied about that. They look at anecdotes, and headlines.

    Thats the difference.
     
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    Who knows.

    But one thing is for sure, the last decade of democrat behavior is going to go down as some of the most corrupt.
     
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    You appear to enjoy deadlocked government & constant obstructionism. I'm exhausted with it.
     
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    I've not seen all your posts, so I'm not aware of your answer.
     
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    A fairly deadlocked govt is a good thing.

    Imagine living in a world where every 4 to 8 years the style of governing drastically changed, laws flip flopping back and forth. Deadlock is by design. Deadlock requires some type of compromise.
     
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    Being deadlocked on climate change when scientists are saying we have less than a decade to deal with it, is NOT comforting. Being deadlocked during the worst health crisis in a century, with a thousand Americans dying unnecessarily every day, is NOT comforting. I guess I'm not as comfortable with deadlock as you seem to be. I'd like some concrete action from my government.
     
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    Unfortunately, I'd prefer each side to have to go through the other before stuff gets done. It's the only way we ensure that the plentiful foolishness from both sides is checked. Democrats with control of the presidency and both houses of Congress will just push through dumbass progressive stuff. And the Republicans would push through dumbass conservative stuff, like they did when they cut everyone's taxes, but made the cuts for the lower and middle classes expire.

    And if our political parties won't work together, just what are we electing them for in the first place? Any politician, no matter what party, that isn't at least willing to compromise doesn't belong in government, if you ask me.
     
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    Scientists are not saying we have less than a decade to fix it, that is false. Get better sources. That is fantasy and fear mongering.

    This heath crisis is permanent, its never going away just like the flu never is.

    What you would like is to have your govt do what you want, except sometimes what you want and what others want is very different. You would undoubtedly feel different if that concrete action was happening and it wasn’t what you agreed with.

    Dead lock is working as intended.
     
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    I find myself agreeing with much of what you say, generally. For most of its history, our government has found ways to act in accordance with your post. Since 1994, that's been gradually changing more toward deadlocked government. Since 2010, I feel it's mostly deadlocked. I'd like to see the two parties working together on common ground again. That's makes a healthier America.
     
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    You & I see things very differently. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. :)
     
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    Greenspan served under 4 administrations including Clinton's.
    http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877322,00.html

    President Clinton's tenure was characterized by economic prosperity and financial deregulation, which in many ways set the stage for the excesses of recent years. Among his biggest strokes of free-wheeling capitalism was the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, a cornerstone of Depression-era regulation. He also signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which exempted credit-default swaps from regulation. In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods. It is the subject of heated political and scholarly debate whether any of these moves are to blame for our troubles, but they certainly played a role in creating a permissive lending environment.
     
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