There will be almost no white majority countries in 2040

Which is what I said in the first place.

Western Civilization is the answer to Tertullian's question "What has Athens to do with Jerusalem?"

 

Humans are not bound by concepts such as liberty and freedom. Much of human history involved slavery by one group over another. These concepts only exist because of the development of Western civilization by white Europeans, of which you are a product.

Not at all. Here's a simple test, the next time you see somebody spouting off the same exact talking points that you are ("there is only one race, the human race!"), look at their other posts. In almost every case, you will find a left-wing progressive. You're one of the only right-leaning people I've seen in the last 6 years I've been here that has this view.

Not if the people who are taking over the nation don't believe in those concepts. We know what kind of countries Hispanics are capable of producing and governing. We have many examples of them in Mexico, Central, and South America. Most of these countries are left-wing authoritarian Governments, rife with crime, and mired in poverty. There's nothing magical about US soil where if we transport those people here, they suddenly start believing in the same concepts that you, a white conservative of European ancestry, suddenly believe in. They bring their beliefs and their culture with them, and that includes politics. 75% of Hispanics prefer a larger Government that provides more services compared to a smaller one. That's roughly the same percentage of Hispanics that vote for the Democratic Party. Which party do you think will win more when the country is less white, more Hispanic? How do you think your kids and Grandkids are going to enjoy living in a country where Democrats win every single election, even as they become increasingly more radicalized and left-wing?

So why aren't you a fan of open borders if this is your belief system?

 

"When you're out numbered, you lose elections. When you lose elections, you lose power. When you lose power, you lose control. When you lose control, the nation is no longer yours. When the nation is no longer yours, it belongs to another. When the nation belongs to another, it starts idolizing its own people as its national heroes, not yours. It starts building monuments to them, not you. It starts putting their own faces on their currency. It starts forging its own allies, and making its own enemies." - Teutorian

It's too bad that member isn't around here anymore.

 

it's not about race per se but about identity. As long as race isn't tied to identity, everything's fine.. but let's not be naive, we all know that race does matter to a lot of people. That is the reality we live in, and therefore the reality upon which we must base our decisions. Identity and unity is VITAL for a nation: without it, it will crumble. If unity happens to be based partly on race (which it is), we must for the sake of unity also try to maintain the status quo in race demographics. Yes, maybe we could stop making people identify by race, but that's a BIG maybe, and it would in any case take a lot of time. To let the racial demographics change dramatically, while hoping that race will cease to be important, is reckless. No, you don't gamble with something that is literally fundamental for the stability and continuation of the nation.

people must understand that mass immigration from the third world is NOT something normal. Never before in history has there been immigrants so numerous, arriving in such a short time span, from such distant cultures. There are no historical precendents you can point to to argue this will turn out fine, because nothing like this has ever happened. But it doesn't take a genius to figure out that it will probably lead to problems.

Why is the west so rich and peaceful? because of our institutions, which are maintained by a culture which values and respects them, and that culture is tied to people. I'm stating the obvious, but a lot of people don't seem to make the connection that if you take people who does NOT have a culture which values those institutions, those institutions will crumble. There is a reason that e.g. homosexuality is outlawed in kenya but not in sweden, and that reason is ultimately culture and thus people. Swap the kenyan and swedish populations and you would see SSM legal over night in kenya and homo ban in sweden. People matter. We have free speech in the west because westerners value free speech. Other groups, e.g. muslim arabs, EVIDENTLY are not huge fans of it, especially with regards to religion.

So, how can any sane person seriously argue that importing tons of people from places where democracy and human rights are resented, will not lead to the undermining of those things in our countries?

 

I think the leaders of the left-wing movement know that those foundations will be undermined in our countries. That's their goal. Now, your average lefty probably naively believes in these concepts, because they sound and feel good, but I'm talking about the ones at the top. They know what this leads to.

They are at war with literally every foundation in society that promotes stability. Family, race, culture, religion, nation, language, gender, and more - all of these things have been attacked by the left in their desire to reinvent and "fundamentally transform" society into something that will be more conducive to their far-left agenda. There is strength in unity, and they realize that, which is why they want society to be broken apart by having people in society surrounded by those who have nothing in common with them. You can't unite with someone too easily when they don't look like you, speak your language, share your culture, respect your laws, etc.

The flowers of the left don't grow very well in stable soil, that's why they constantly agitate society and create chaos. It's in that chaos that they effect the change that they want.

 

It is also shaped by culture. A culture that demands behaviour that exhibits good character will be more likely to have people who exhibit good character than one that does not.

I used to work for a guy who came her from Lebanon. He was always telling me about the culture of that part of the world. His most common saying was "If you don't cut his balls first, he will cut yours". I watched him treat investors and partners from his area of origin in the world (some guys from Turkey, some guys from Lebanon, couple from Iran) in exactly that manner. He lied to them, scammed them, cheated them (and I am sure he was cheated in return). His treatment of Americans was totally different.

The culture he came from dictated treatment of his fellow Middle Easterners.

 

Yeah and the Post Trump way that conversation goes is:
1. Liberal Says Something
2. Conservative: responds
3. Liberal: you're a racist/sexist/bigot/perjorative du jour
4 Conservative: (*)(*)(*)(*) YOU!

 

White people need to start having more babies.

 

It's like my momma always said - Middle Easterners are like a box of chocolates.They either have their nuts or the guy they were just talking to chopped off their nuts and is trying to sell them back to him.

 

I'm with you. We need a system to America back to these levels of homogeneous Native Americans like Japan and Korea.

 

We aren't bound by our skin color, we are bound by the ideals of Freedom Justice and Liberty.

 

Sure we are.

And we continue to outgrow that.

There used to be more, There will again be more. We are flat out right about this and it's enshrined in our founding documents. Forming a "more perfect Union" is an ongoing process. It never ends.

They need to be taught our Constitutional Values we are the Sovereigns, Government is our Servant. Our Constitution binds the Government from encroaching on our Liberty and must be held to its Constitutional limits. Look at the progress we have made on these fronts in the last 50 years. I grew thinking everything Walter Cronkite told me was the truth. Then I watched Dan Rather be taken apart by bloggers in a single afternoon. Take the second Amendment. We actually now have a SCOTUS decision that the Second Amendment is a PERSONAL right. We didn't have that even 10 years ago. 1,000 Statist Democrats have been voted out of office just since Obama was first elected, 1500 if you go to the City and local level. Progressives are on the ropes. Poor Nancy can't even get her mic to work. She gets a crowd outside of the supreme court to protest Trump and she can't even get a mic up. The other poor clown they think is their 2020 hope is pulling out a bullhorn. They finally all give that up a try to sing a song together. These are amazing times, held back only by the deep mindset Republicans have that they are the minority party. But we have a REAL grassroots, and we keep holding their feet to the fire. These are amazing times. We are making strides that didn't even seem possible, just 40 years ago.

That's the "arc of history" crap the Democrats pedal. I'm not buying it. There is a deep yearning, and I believe it a near universal one, that longs for Freedom, Justice and Liberty.

For reasons of security - we have a duty to those here, to be diligent not to allow in dangerous folks.
For economic reasons - our labor markets are much too slack, but were inflation to take hold, I would support higher levels of migrant entry, but, since we have a crowd of applicants, we should take the best, the ones that most benefit those already here, and of course we also help those in need, because that is simply who we are as a people.