This has always stumped me

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  1. DarkDaimon

    DarkDaimon Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely not.
     
  2. GeorgiaAmy

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    Lol. Well, that's ignorant.
    Look at height averages among Asians and blacks. Certain diseases cease to exist among some races and are very prevalent among others. Males are much more likely to have autistic disorders, football and basketball are dominated by blacks. Women are typically more nurturing, men typically physically stronger.
    I don't understand why people feel compelled to say we are all the same.
     
  3. DarkDaimon

    DarkDaimon Well-Known Member

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    Oh, I thought you said reliable. See, there are some Asians that are taller than some blacks, some whites can have sickle cell anemia, some women have autism and what does playing football and basketball have to do with anything we are talking about? Also, I know women who could kick most guys asses and they hate kids. How can you say that race and gender are reliable factors for traits and characteristics? Your own quote disproves it by you having to use quantifiers with your statements like "averages", "more likely" and "typically". If my employees were that "reliable", I would have to fire them.

    I don't understand why people feel compelled to group humans together based on things as meaningless as melanin or the shape of the eyes. That's just ignorant.
     
  4. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    Enter Genetic Engineering and we can make that work.

    They crossed a Bunny with a Bioluminecent Jellyfish.

    Now we have a Rabbit that Glows in the dark!

    NO S#!#!

    AboveAlpha
     
  5. Capitalism

    Capitalism Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Humans were crossed with Apes in the 60's. Artificial insemination has done some strange things in it's short stent in our history.
     
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    Humans are and always have been APES!

    The family Hominidae, known collectively as the great apes, include orangutans, gorillas, chimpanzees, and humans;[1][2][3][4] alternatively, this family clade is also known as the hominids. There are seven extant species of great apes: two in the orangutans (genus Pongo), two in the gorillas (genus Gorilla), two in the chimpanzees (genus Pan), and a single extant species, Homo sapiens, of modern humans (genus Homo).

    LINK....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape

    AboveAlpha
     
  7. Jackster

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    Since Horses and Donkeys breed to create mules one can only assume if you ordered a horse you couldnt possible tell if you were delivered a donkey or mule.
     
  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    OK, OK, maybe the Chihuahua and Great Dane is a little much. The point remains, they COULD reproduce if not for the size considerations. That's how you define species.

    Has anyone ever heard of a Chihuahua/German Shepherd? I don't want to be around it if it exists. Chihuahuas have a remarkably aggressive temperament. In a Chihuahua it's cute but I really don't want to be around a German Shepherd with it
     
  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    The definition is FERTILE offspring. Mules are generally sterile. Animals can have offspring if they are within the same genus, but they will not, generally, be fertile. (Offspring of Mules are not unheard but I have never heard of another generation coming from them)

    In any case, there is no evidence whatsoever that Mules are less intelligent than horses.
     
  10. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Do you have a link? If there was offspring I see all sorts of ethical problems, and wonder why it was not more famous. Maybe it was just discussed and judged possible?
     
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    Alek....your just kidding around right?

    Your not serious I hope in asking that question?

    AboveAlpha
     
  12. perdidochas

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    You don't understand the problem if you think genetic engineering will let it happen. The problem is that the fetuses simply can't live in the either extra-small uterus of the chihuahua or the huge uterus of the great dane.

    They didn't cross the bunny with the jellyfish--they added the bioluminescent genes to the bunny. It's slightly different.
     
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    What? That response makes no sense. Horses and donkey are different species, because the resulting mules (or hinnies) do not produce offspring.
     
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    Well, it is one of the weaknesses of the species definition, which doesn't always work.

    Yes, great danes can have fertile offspring with intermediate sized dogs, as can chihuahuas, and there are probably only two or three intermediates in between them. If, for some odd reason, only great danes and chihuahuas existed (and all the intermediates became extinct), I'd argue they were different species. Things like that occur in nature, albeit not quite so radically different. For example, white-tailed deer living in the Florida Keys only get to about 75 lbs, but white-tailed deer in Minnesota can get to 400 lbs. I doubt very much that if they were in nature together that they would interbreed.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Key_deer
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White-tailed_deer
     
  15. Capitalism

    Capitalism Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He thinks the Soviet Union was ethical :/.
     
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    Yes....I am aware what they did to make the Glowing Bunny Wabbit!! I was just being literal.

    The Uterine issue can be solved by simply engineering the Uterus to grow larger.

    If there is not enough room internally for such growth....then we splice a Gene with another Dog that would allow it.

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    Nothing ETHICAL about the Soviet Union!! LOL!!!

    1984....Leningrad....I was with 3 GRU guy's at a HIGH LEVEL COMMUNIST PARTY ONLY CLUB on the Neva River.

    Cold as HELL....we walk in because I am working with them to develop Back Channel Emergency Communication after the ALMOST DISASTER of Yuri Andropov thinking the the NATO Military Games called ABLE ARCHER 83...was REAL....and this Old Commie almost destroyed the planet with about 45 seconds to spare before his OWN PEOPLE STOPPED HIM!!

    We walk in....LIKE STUDIO 54 IN 1978!!!

    All YOUNG HOT GIRLS!!

    ALL OLD FAT MEN except for us.

    AboveAlpha
     
  18. perdidochas

    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    We are talking about the species definition here. That is the point, not how we could do it artificially. The easiest way to do it artificially would be in vitro fertilization and put the fertilized egg in an intermediate sized dog (a collie, maybe).

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/aug/13/glow-in-dark-rabbits-scientists
     
  19. AboveAlpha

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    They are talking about asking a woman to give birth to a Neanderthal as they have somehow isolated Neanderthal DNA.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    There is nothing racist about it. Climate has alot to do with differences. Kinky hair allows air to flow over the scalp while protecting the brain from the sun and a wide nose improves humid air intake. Dark skin protects from the sun. Those who live in cold climates have light skin to better absorb the sun and their veins are closer to the surface to better warm the body. But how any of that relates to bones is perhaps due to diet. Damn good question though.
     
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    I found this lecture very interesting but very long. I haven't had a chance to verify any of it, but this guy claims Neanderthals were primates and not human. Primates have an extra chomosome. If Neanderthal has an extra chromosone than it won't work.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe6DN1OoxjE
     
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    Human Beings ARE PRIMATES.

    In fact Human's are APES.

    The family Hominidae, known collectively as the great apes, include orangutans, gorillas, chimpanzees, and HUMANS;[1][2][3][4] alternatively, this family clade is also known as the hominids. There are seven extant species of great apes: two in the orangutans (genus Pongo), two in the gorillas (genus Gorilla), two in the chimpanzees (genus Pan), and a single extant species, Homo sapiens, of modern HUMANS (genus Homo).

    LINK....https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape

    AboveAlpha
     
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    This guy is a MORON of INCREDIBLE STUPIDITY upon a level rarely seen.

    AboveAlpha
     
  24. Capitalism

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    What are the little people of Australia and Indonesia called? They found "Hobbit" sized humans that lived along side us and were apparently very brutal. They found tools including spears and a charred wall next to the bones.
     
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    Capitalism Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look up the Professor Ivanov(I believe that's properly spelled) experiments, it was rather famous.
     

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