This Kind of Mass Violence Does Not Happen in Other Advanced Countries

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  1. Tram Law

    Tram Law Banned

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    That's because the only reason to take away firearms is to institute a tyranny.

    A firearm is not an evil thing, it is a tool. It also saves lives and provides food on the table.

    But uh, who cares about that right?

    Punish the people doing the action, don't take away people's things.
     
  2. BoDiddly

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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what scares the crap out of me the left here in America is using the same class warfare propaganda that was used in those countries that those same mass murdering communist used to come to power
     
  4. Hoosier8

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    Looks like you have a bigoted view of gun owners. Hope you know a lot of those 'elitist' liberals own guns.
     
  5. TRFjr

    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    has been debunked

     
  6. RP12

    RP12 Well-Known Member

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    No other country has the right to self defense.. Interesting claim..
     
  7. PeppermintTwist

    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And you are of the opinion that this racist murderer deserved the right to own a gun??? That his father was right in purchasing it for him? Really?
     
  8. Pardy

    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Constitution has been amended 27 times already. Amending was built into the Constitution. The problem is that it's not adapting fast enough. Eventually we'll have guns that can kill 100 people in a microsecond -- something the Framers likely never thought of. I don't have high hopes for humanity lasting much longer on this Earth.

    Actually, the biggest case of mass murder by anyone in the past 20 years was by Timothy McVeigh, who was hardly a liberal. If only those people in the building all had guns so they could have defended themselves from the explosion.
     
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    Its not debunked you are just arguing over what the definition of a mass shooting is.
     
  10. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Of course he had the right to own a gun, read the Constitution sometime. As yet, we don't know if that was the gun that was used, only that he had that particular gun. Perhaps waiting for the facts would clear up a lot of your paranoia about inanimate objects...
     
  11. Tram Law

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    You really don't understand the concept of inalienable rights do you?

    And you don't change the constitution just because you feel bad about something. Prohibition tried that already and it failed.

    No, you don't take away people's things, you punish them for the actions they do.

    Stop trying to take away people's firearms.

    And that's just typical leftist nonsense of we must not allow people to defend themselves against our demands.
     
  12. PeppermintTwist

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    He was a racist, disturbed drug abuser with a police record and as far as I am concerned there was a moral responsibility for his father to NOT buy him a gun. In fact, he should have been an abortion.
     
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    Let's look at your post again.

    Bigotry is ugly.
     
  14. Pardy

    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No conservative, they're increasing rapidly. In fact, they've tripled since 2011. Please don't rely on right-wing news sources for facts.

    Are you claiming that arming the public will prevent tyranny? Your pew pew toy won't protect you from a neutron bomb that can kill a city in a blink of an eye while leaving the buildings relatively untouched, all delivered by a stealthy drone from hundreds of miles away.

    Then I'll correct myself: a gun isn't a toy to a criminal, police officer or soldier. A gun is only a toy for silly people who think they 'need' them.
     
  15. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Constitution doesn't really care about your concerns, thank goodness.

    Moral responsibility? Who is going to be in charge of that? When will you guys implement it in Chicago, Baltimore, Killwaukee, and every other liberal cesspool where blacks are killing blacks daily?
     
  16. junius. fils

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    Instead of whining about the weapons, lefties should learn how to use them. A little education goes a very long way?

    If memory serves, in 21 years in the Army (to include RVN), I trained on the M-1 carbine, M-14, M-16, M-79, shot gun, WW II 45 cal "grease gun," 38, & 45. I also favor gun control. Your tern.
     
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    That's good. Do you train others? Knowledge is most helpful when it's passed on. There's a whole ton of liberals who could use some weapons education.
     
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    And a whole lot of trailer trash that should be taught not to buy guns for the mentally defective offspring.
     
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    how about a Crime Expert Northeastern University criminologist James Alan Fox

    Just FYI: Mass Shootings Aren’t on the Rise and America Isn’t More Violent than Ever

    http://www.mediaite.com/online/just...uent-and-america-isnt-more-violent-than-ever/

    and no Mediaite isn't a right-wing news source
     
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    Mentally defective? Wasn't that the defense from the left from that black guy that shot up the Navy Yard a while back? That was the mass shooting that disappeared quickly when the perp was the wrong color...
     
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    Wow, so you're willing to kill millions of people to take away a few hunting rifles.

    You're really that scared of firearms?

    In dropping an atomic bomb you will only end up killing yourself. That's some irony there.
     
  22. junius. fils

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    I have no desire whatsoever to own or have anything to do with a weapon. As for people who could use some weapons education, most of the gun fondlers I wouldn't trust with a book of burned out matches 6 feet underwater.
     
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    Gun fondlers? You hang out with gun fondlers?

    I don't know any gun fondlers. I try to stay miles away from "gun fondlers". I only hang out with responsible and educated gun owners, they're not much into "fondling" anything. (Their biggest problem these days is finding enough ammo, and they don't hang on to it long enough to "fondle" anything).
     
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    Then that is your choice to make with regard to yourself. Do not be attempting to make it for others.

    Then you strongly distrust others. Is that not better known as paranoia, or anti social behavior?
     
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    The amount of people using guns for self defense is pretty tiny compared to the amount of criminal homicides committed with them.

    Some nations do perfectly well with gun ownership. I think it's either Switzerland or Sweden that has mandatory gun ownership and next to no shootings. However, gun control also works really well for preventing gun deaths. Gun deaths are unheard of in Japan, where they're illegal to own.

    The problem is that in the US, it's easy to get a gun without knowing a thing about responsbility or gun safety.
     

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