This Reality is America

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    It is not a lack of empathy to suggest that people can always do more to help themselves than the government can or will. It is fact.
     
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    And since you can't comprehend that 30 million illegals has something to do with the homeless problem I will also break the news to you that millions of fully employed people COMMIT FRAUD because they LIE when they fill out the applications for welfare. THEY ARE NOTHING BUT THIEVES. JUST LIKE THE MILLIONS OF ILLEGALS THAT GET WELFARE TOO.
     
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    ARDY Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    fair enough...
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sounds like you're a generous employer. Kudos for that.
     
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    gorfias Well-Known Member

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    Leftist organizations like the ACLU was pretty deep into this as well. They compared institutionalizing the mentally ill homeless with something authoritarian regimes like the former USSR were doing to dissidents. The concern with abuse is a reasonable one but leaving people to freeze to death isn't exactly liberty.
     
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    Illegals don't qualify for welfare.
     
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    stone6 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hadn't remembered that, but it makes sense. I agree that taking away an individual's freedom, without having committed a crime, is something that needs to be accomplished with all sorts of checks and balances necessary to prevent abuse. And, I agree with your comment regarding leaving them to sleep on the streets (and possibly freeze) as a non-solution.
     
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    Sleep Monster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think not. The ACLU has been around long enough to remember what Reagan did in the early 80s to people living in state run mental institutions, people with bi-polar disorder, schizophrenia, and other mental illnesses. He turned off all federal funding, and those institutions had to release tens of thousands of those people. The fiasco of it was that they did not notify families, they just gave them a duffel bag with a couple changes of clothes and basic toiletries like toothbrushes and combs, and a few bucks, then put them on buses to the nearest big cities, where virtually all became homeless. A friend of mine had to hire a Private Investigator to find her aunt.
     
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    NO kidding, I agree with you. Set up some encampments outside of Newsom's house or Pelosi's estate and watch the homeless crises come to a crashing halt quickly.
     
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    gorfias Well-Known Member

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    It can be both. Example: https://www.aclu.org/other/aclu-history-mental-institutions The danger of locking people up for being non-conformist is a real threat to civil liberties. And again, Reagan was dealing with the funding priorities of a Democratic majority in the House. This is a bi-partisan problem.
     

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