Thousands of Arizona duplicate ballots are missing serial numbers

Found a good article from Forbes Magazine on the state of preparedness for CMEs dated February this year. It has a nice summery of things we can do on short notice of an impending event. Turns out shutting down and grounding are important. That said for many poor parts of the world it would be a disaster. Let me know what you think.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/starts...r-the-next-giant-solar-flare/?sh=51b5b3c4196e

 

How about we gather info so we know what to look for and come with ideas on how to prevent it.

 

That doesn't make sense unless there is a ton of fraud found. If nothing is found, it would do the opposite of what you claim.

 

When the whole story comes out I hope you're man enough to come back here and admit you're wrong.

 

Hence videos like the one that triggered this thread (maybe even hence this thread). They don't need to prove fraud, they just need to convince the public there was fraud. It's the same thing with the earlier scatter-gun of court cases. They knew they'd all get thrown out (on valid grounds) but they could just spin that as state cover-up.

If they had actual evidence of intentional fraud by identified individuals (which is the OP assertion), they'd be rushing to present that evidence to the world. The fact that no such evidence has ever been presented should be telling. There was undoubtedly some level of fraud in the 2020 election (just as with every single election ever held anywhere) and plenty of bad practice and flawed systems (which should be receiving the attention) but that is a world away from the narrative of a calculated effort to "steal the election".

 

That is a tall order......"when the whole story comes out". Remember the Biden laptop story that revealed Creepy Joe was involved in Hunters dealings? It also revealed Hunter was paying Daddy's bills?? Well of course that was suppressed until after the "Big Guy was elected.

 

PURE LUNACY !!!!

 

If fraud is determined. the election will be decertified and those granting certification fraudulently will be in big trouble.

 

As far as I am aware its too late. All 50 States rightly or wrongly (but based on the lack of evidence presented to date rightly) certified the results. Happy to be proven wrong of course but as far as I am aware after certification even if fraud was detected the Senate and Congress have no legal authority to act. The power to confirm an election result lies in the hands of all 50 States, each of which has its own legislation governing the process.

For that matter some or all of those States might not even have legal provisions covering revocation because all issues/disputes/legalities etc relating to an election are supposed to have been dealt with by each State before they confirm the result. Which they all have. Add to that the fact we're almost a year into Biden's (first?) term so by the time all the legal issues have been worked through will almost certainly be 2024 anyway.

Result? I don't think it can be overturned, least-ways not in time to make a difference.

 

There is always impeachment both Biden and Harris
if fraud is proven, and they refuse to step down knowing they didn't legally win even if they had no knowledge they are still profiting off a crime which in its self is a crime
and when fraud is proven you can guarantee democrats will lose the house and senate by a large margin so if the president and VP get impeached and kicked out the speaker of the house becomes president and that would be a republican after 2022 and if Trump gets elected speaker
so it is plausible Trump could be back in the WH after 2022

 

I do not believe a president could be impeached because of election fraud. How could you impeach a president for crimes committed by someone else?

 

Does an owner of a stolen car get to keep the car even if he wasn't the one that stole it ? No
and if the owner refuses to forfeit the stolen car after he is aware it was stolen that is a crime

 

If only democrats out as much effort into policy as they put into cheating. They are smarter than they seem but unfortunately very misguided

 

You can not impeach a president for election fraud committed by random election officials in various states. Where’s the high crime or misdemeanor on his part?

MNow, if you want to invalidate an election and re-do it, that’s a different issue

Why do people deflect to these silly arguments?


Try this…….https://ballotpedia.org/Can_a_redo_be_held_for_a_presidential_election?_(2020)

A redo election, also known as a revoteor special election remedy, is the process of voiding election results and holding a new election.[1] The specific reasons for calling a redo election vary, but might include deliberate efforts to obscure the results such as electoral fraud or mistakes like a broken voting machine.

 

He won't be impeached for the proven fraud he will be impeached for not resigning
you are not allowed to keep what was stolen from a crime even if that crime is committed by another even if you had no knowledge of the crime
be it a car money art an election
and it isn't a silly argument, it is the law

 

2020 TRUMP Won!
LOST !​

Like 1960 JFK vs NIXON.


Nothing new here. Move along


Moi

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Trump couldn't be impeached and neither will either of the other two. Its seems to have become fashionable in some circles (on both sides of politics) to throw the word 'impeachment' around like its a magic spell strait out of Harry Potter. It isn't. The formal process imposes entails huge political/legal challenges and ties up both sides of the house for moths or even years on that one issue. Nothing else would get done. Even Nixon's impeachment on what were relativity simple matters took 10 months to complete and calls for impeachment started months before that!.

For all their statements to the media calling for impeachment both sides of politics have other agendas they want to advance which would stall if impeachment ever became a real option. For that matter neither side really want's to weaponize the impeachment process because it would mean that calls for impeachment of any sitting President in future would become the de facto state of affairs. And things are jammed up in Washington enough as it is already.

To paraphrase Sparta 'when'.

 

Only if we were dealing with logical and informed individuals that will not just claim it is an even bigger conspiracy…

Which we are not.

 

I do love reading your posts after telling the left they were “looking at fake ass polls” and that they are “having a mental break down and crying” while constantly mocking them for four years

You and your ilk did create an issue though that I am unsurprised you didn’t foresee, you made people that just disliked trump and his supporters into people that hate trump and his supporters — including many that had voted Republican in the past. You turned people that just disagreed into enemies because you despised them. So now they despise you.

Lets see if the nation can survive this war y’all created.

 

If fraud is proven you might see a super majority in the senate
not to many people will vote for proven cheaters

 

Again quoting the Spartans 'if'.

But that aside it would not be enough just to prove fraud had occurred. You would have to prove Biden or at least his closest advisers were responsible for organizing it or at least knew about it in advance! It is perfectly feasible for instance that an elected official might be the beneficiary of a fraudulent election result without actually being aware of the fraud. All it takes is a group of rich/powerful domestic actors who see an advantage for themselves in defeating the opposition candidate e.g. perhaps because a policy advocated by that person will cost that group a lot of money or whatever. In fact is such a scenario it would be beneficial for the 'winner' to suspect nothing. Alternately a hostile State actor would benefit just by sowing dissent - which is certainly what we're seeing now at least amongst a minority of citizenry.

That said so far I have seen no evidence that either scenario was in play in 2020. We're a almost a year in to Biden's first term.At some point enough is going to have to be enough because the next election will arrive and still all you will have is allegations & no proof. So worry about beating him in the next election not the last one.

 

It isn't anything like as simple as you want it to be. You can't compare physical property with an election result and I very much doubt you can identify any law that requires someone to resign if an already confirmed election result is subsequently proven invalid. You might be able to make a strong moral argument (depending on the specifics) but not a legal one and certainly not one that meets the high bar of a Presidential impeachment (and yes, both Trump impeachments were flawed and entirely partisan, just like your proposal would be).

Also, if you waited until 2022 to present the present proof of 2020 election fraud, the legal processes and inevitable back-and-forth would likely run through to 2024 anyway, rending the issue of the current Presidential term moot. And of course you wouldn't want to present the proof now (even if you had it) because if that forced Biden and Harris to resign, Pelosi would become President. Would you even want to present the proof if Trump somehow failed to fulfil this wild prophecy of winning a Congressional seat and then being elected Speaker? This isn't really about addressing issues of election fraud is it? It's just about getting Trump back in to office by any means necessary.

 

That is the whole point of all these lies about the stolen election, it is their game plan for winning in 2022.

 

Which would only work if everyone (and by 'everyone' I mean the whole world) wasn't alert to claims/allegations that the last election was 'stolen'. You really think people are just going to sit on their hands and not put systems in place to watch the next election more closely than the last? And that's despite the fact that (absent any evidence to the contrary of which to date there is one) current systems appear to have worked well for many years.

 

The Trumpy "Big Bamboozle" fiasco in Arizona has embarrassed plenty of Republicans, and is finally losing its last, tentative pretense of legitimacy.

Ken Bennett, the former Arizona GOP secretary of state serving as the Arizona Senate Republicans' liaison to the unending "audit":

"I cannot be a part of a process that I am kept out of critical aspects along the way that make the audit legitimate
and have integrity when we produce the final report. And unfortunately, there have been too many
of those situations. And the tip of the iceberg kind of came out last Friday when I was denied access to the audit."

Anthropogenic climate change is undeniable, but the Big Bamboozle scam has turned out to be an iceberg in the desert!


"Why is Gaetz dressed like Mother Hubbard?"
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