Guns can be made at home depot. Guns can be made with home CNC milling and plans from the net. Guns can now be 3d printed with plans from the net and home printers. You can't stop the signal Ron. Let it go.
Dude if the plan is for the deaths of all of a certain viewpoint so you can establish the government you want by fiat rather than by persuasion, that would be a totalitarian action... The all .gov members can be totalitarian or revolutionary, the murdering of countless millions so they won't speak out or because they don't hold your views crosses a line defined in no uncertain terms.
Right but the sentiment expressed by Xen went quite a bit farther than that into slaughtering those of the general populace by viewpoint so they wouldn't SPEAK OUT. Not ACT OUT. Not oppose by force of arms. Simply speak.
1) that won't stop people buying firearms illegally. 2) that's beyond the scope of the constitutional powers granted the fed and you'd need an amendment for more powers. FFLs are as far as you can take it and even that is constitutionally tenuous at best. 3) https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...long-time-about-crime/?utm_term=.9faf044450e0 79% of guns used in crime belong to someone other than the perp... IE what you want won't help.
Off topic and irrelevant. Do not discuss such here, save it for the discussions where it is actually the topic of discussion.
Why not universal background checks for anyone who wishes to hold public office, or receive any form of government benefits?
LOL...anyone who applies for a govt. job gets a background check. felons are not eligible for SNAP, TANF, WIC, Section 8, or public housing.
All that is false. There is no background check on candidates for public office, nor do all government jobs require a background check, nor are all felons banned from Section 8 housing, nor are all felons banned from SNAP... If the Alex Jones rule of making false statements online should result in banning, you would be banned 100 times over than him - but this isn't Facebook. Lucky you.
they should also get a background check. but you said they all may eventually need to be killed, so who cares right?
We make the best or worst of what we have, We are lucky in the sense we are living in the calm. For now.
Agreed, and I don't support the idea of doing so. But, the idea of needing to purge the government of all elements of those who actively seek to undermine our core ideals to surreptitiously manipulate us into a totalitarian state is a legitimate goal. Not through wholesale slaughter, of course, but through removal, prosecution, and incarceration of corrupt parties. However, we are currently seeing a shocking campaign to silence all views opposing the totalitarian agenda, which I find more than a little disturbing. For the most part I agree with you and I would not tolerate the idea of killing any and all people who don't agree with the ideals I believe in; but there are people who would kill me for daring to stand for individualism and personal liberty, and if such come to eliminate me or silence me I will terminate them with all due prejudice and not lost a minute's sleep over it. I believe doing such is not "murder" in any way.
Which is all well and good. Do you realize that the sentiments you signed on to at the beginning of the discussion from Xen, do not reflect the whole "not through wholesale slaughter" bit or the people coming to you and attacking you? Rather instead its wholesale slaughter and YOU attacking people?
You will note that I stated I didn't agree with every aspect of Xen's statements. If I wasn't clear enough about my disagreement about the wholesale slaughter of anybody and everybody with an alternate viewpoint I hereby state it clearly and apologize for any confusion created.
I am with you, it is the reason I am a prepper. No Rambo, no apocalypse, No taking on a Apache with a 22 wmr while diving off a cliff. Just good sense knowing that Government is that last entity to turn to and at times ignore if something was to go down. The wife and I just call it insurance. No guarantee but I am all about options. Enjoy your posts 6Gunner, it appears you have some mileage behind you along with wisdom.
If certain viewpoints are not eliminated from the equation entirely, then nothing of substance will ever be achieved even if a significant populace uprising can be mustered. If those who believe that government should have the authority to do whatever it wants are allowed to regain public office, the current situation in the united states will simply return once again, even if the laws that enable such are rolled back and repealed. It will only be a matter of time before another Franklin Roosevelt, or Richard Nixon, or any number of other openly corrupt individuals regains the power to execute their goals on a national scale. These are individuals who see their fellow citizens of the united states as being nothing more than cattle and slaves that must be controlled, and will do whatever is necessary to achieve such goals. They will seek office, they will build public support by promising the public whatever it wants, they will corrupt everything once again.
And had you telepathic powers that could be proven BARD, perhaps we'd go about creating thought crimes the sentence for which is death. Call me when you get the prerequisites
Even the founding fathers themselves rejected specific viewpoints and beliefs when they went about founding the united states.
Wise decision. In a national crisis, the government will decide we-the-people are the enemy as in the past. Study Katrina to know how much the government cares about ANYONE but themselves and how everyone else is considered either irrelevant or the enemy. Just as a comment, before they closed the nuclear power plant here, time and again everyone was reminded what the nuclear accident alarm sounded like - contrast to other warning alarm sirens such as severe weather. We were told if the nuclear accident alarm went off we all were to go to our homes and stay inside - do NOT attempt to flee the area. Reasonable? There was something they never announced - what the all-clear siren sounded like. We were to go into our homes - so they would know where our bodies are at, rather than risk anyone possibly spreading contamination somehow. That is the core philosophy of the government in a crisis - go die somewhere so you don't endanger anyone else, particularly anyone in the government. Remember the bird flu scare? The government rounded up enough medicine they thought would cover it for 1.) people in government, 2.) most of the military and 3.) medical staff to take care of people in the government and military. ZERO for anyone else - meaning you and your family. In a national crisis you are 100% on your own and the government will view you as the enemy and a danger, for which their #1 goal as with Katrina will be to disarm you.
