TN: Tyre Nichols was 'defenseless' during his 'savage' beating by police, attorneys say

Or sitting.

 

But, not laying down, dead, as has been suggested. Right?

 

Nobody has suggested he was dead when the paramedics arrived. You are making that up.

 

Y'all keep saying he was "beaten to death". That means he died on the scene.

 

You keep saying that as if

 

You might want to join the English Club.

“
beat to death
This page is about the collocation beat to death
collocation pattern: verb + noun

Meaning
to beat a person or animal so badly that it causes death”

Nothing about dying immediately.
Hell, under your approach, if the beating stops 10 seconds before death, the person was not beaten to death.

https://www.englishclub.com/ref/esl/Collocations/B/beat_to_death_3703.php

 

Would you agree to stipulate that saying someone beat someone to death IMPLIES they kept beating the person UNTIL they were dead which did not occur here. They did not beat him TO his death but the beating CAUSED the death (at least we are being told that). And that is the crux of yours and Wild Bill's disagreement?

 

He was clearly defenseless when he was being beaten. There's no justification for that kind of violence when he was no longer posing a threat.

 

Beaten to death means beaten so badly that the beating caused death. Whether death occurs during the beating or after.
He doesn’t like the phrase because he’s trying to justify, excuse or minimize the conduct of the cops in causing Nichols’ death.

 

Sweat and anyone else can say whatever they want but the video is the evidence and will be presented at their trials.
Nichol's was in a sitting position leaning against the car and fell over a few times while calling out in distress.
One or more of the thugs present sat him up a few times while giving him NO medical aid.

 

It's mind-blowing how anyone can deny that Tyre Nichols was "beaten to death"

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.Snip:

'If I beat up a person and that person then dies 4 days later, am I charged with murder or not?'

'The fact that there's a 4-day period between the beating and the victim’s death will not, standing alone, transform a murder into a lesser crime or no crime.

The common law definition of murder is the killing of another person with malice aforethought. In other words, someone has to die as the result of your intentionally causing them serious bodily harm. If it can be said that the intentional beating you rendered was the proximate cause of the victim's death, the passage of 4 days in time is not going to stop you from being charged with murder, as the fact that the victim did not die immediately does not change your responsibility for what happened. (The common law “year and a day” rule, which has largely fallen out of favor due to advances in medical technology such as life support, held that an act or omission that took place more than a year and a day prior to the victim's death could not legally be the cause of death, at least in criminal law. Today, the rule has largely been abolished entirely or replaced with a rebuttable presumption as opposed to an ironclad bar against prosecution.)

Therefore, if you beat someone up without justification (e.g., it was not in self-defense) and the act is done with malice aforethought (e.g., you have no “heat of passion” claim that might make the crime manslaughter) and the victim then dies as a direct result of your actions (e.g., the victim did not succumb to terminal cancer as opposed to his wounds) then yes, you will be charged with murder.

cont:
https://www.quora.com/If-I-beat-up-...-4-days-later-am-I-charged-with-murder-or-not

 

Of course:

 

These EMS technicians need to be held criminally accountable.
Cops are held criminally responsible for not rendering medical aid.
Feds indict for this,violating someone's civil rights.


'Two emergency responders have licenses suspended due to inadequate response in rendering aid to Tyre Nichols'

'Two first responders were suspended Friday by the Tennessee Emergency Medical Services Division after they failed to render emergency care and treatment the night that Tyre Nichols encountered law enforcement, the agency announced.

The medical services division said Robert Long and JaMichael Lamar Sandridge failed to provide any basic emergency care for 19 minutes despite Nichols “exhibiting clear signs of distress such as the inability to remain in a seated posture and laying prone on the ground multiple times.”

Long and Sandridge arrived at the scene around 8:41 p.m. the night Nichols encountered police, according to the Tennessee Emergency Medical Services Division. The board said both first responders failed to perform tasks such as obtaining vital signs and conducting a full head-to-toe examination during the 19-minute period.'

cont:
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/03/us/tyre-nichols-memphis-investigation-district-attorney/index.html

 

'6th officer fired after beating death of Tyre Nichols

Others who were at the scene are being investigated including a Supervisor (of what?) they don't say.


Source: AP

MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP) — A sixth Memphis officer was fired Friday after an internal police investigation showed he violated multiple department policies in the violent arrest of Tyre Nichols, including rules surrounding the deployment of a stun gun, officials said.

Preston Hemphill had been suspended as he was investigated for his role in the Jan. 7 arrest of Nichols, who died in a hospital three days later.
Hemphill is white. One other officer has been suspended, but has not been identified.

Hemphill was the third officer at the traffic stop that preceded the arrest but was not at the location where Nichols was beaten after he ran away. On body camera footage from the initial stop, Hemphill is heard saying that he used a stun gun against Nichols and declaring, “I hope they stomp his ass.”

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More info on Hemphill and investigation.
They could have described in some detail how he ****ed up.

'PD Officer Preston Hemphill fired for "multiple department policy" violations in Tyre Nichols case'
'MPD said in a statement Friday evening that several other MPD officers are under investigation, and action on those will come "in the coming days."

snip:

"After a review of the circumstances surrounding this incident, we determined that Officer Preston violated multiple department policies. Officer Hemphill was departmentally charged and terminated from the Memphis Police Department for the following violations:

1. Personal Conduct
2. Truthfulness
3. Compliance with Regulations to wit: Conducted Energy Weapon (TASER)
4. Compliance with Regulations to wit: Uniforms (issued equipment)
5. Inventory and Processing Recovered Property"

'The statement went on to say the administrative investigation is continuing and multiple MPD officers are under investigation for departmental policy violations. They said action on those officers will be made available in the coming days.'

cont:
https://www.localmemphis.com/articl...lice/522-105badba-b21c-4004-bbea-eb8120d49a61

 

This was probably not a good idea:

 

Miami adds insult to injury.

'Black History Month police cruisers spark backlash online'

'The cars are decorated in the Pan-African colors of red, yellow and green, and have “Black History Month” emblazoned on them. Many residents and social media users are not happy.'

snip:

'More than a thousand miles south, in Miami, the city’s police department introduced its own Black History Month-themed car on Thursday, according to the Miami Herald. The vehicle is decorated in red, yellow and green with symbols of Black fists and an outline of Africa. A ceremony took place in Overtown, a historically Black neighborhood in Miami, while police honored the first Black men to join the force in 1944.'


cont:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk...lice-cruisers-spark-backlash-online-rcna69098

 

Travis/Gregory McMichael and Roddy Bryan were all convicted of the federal charge of violating one's civil rights by attempting to kidnap Ahmaud Arbery.


'Legal Analysts Call Attention to Unusual Charge Against Memphis Officers Who Fatally Beat Tyre Nichols — Kidnapping'

snips:

'Civil rights lawyers and others have zeroed in on the kidnapping charges. Under Tennessee law, kidnapping requires that a person “knowingly removes or confines another unlawfully so as to interfere substantially with the other’s liberty.” The kidnapping charges against the officers may indicate that — at least in the eyes of prosecutors — Nichols’s traffic stop itself had been criminally illegal.'


"The kidnapping aspect sets the Nichols case apart from other police violence cases such as the death of George Floyd, in which officers were held responsible for their egregious violence, but not for the initial step of detaining Floyd.

“For the district attorney to charge the officers with kidnapping Tyre Nichols during the arrest is such an unusual move that it’s almost astounding, but it likely reflects the fact that the officers had little to no justification to apprehend him in the first place,” said Los Angeles-based civil rights attorney V. James DeSimone, who has brought lawsuits against police departments, in a statement.'

One Mississippi news outlet tweeted that the kidnapping charges indicate that “This was NOT a simple traffic stop at all.”

cont:
https://lawandcrime.com/high-profil...ers-who-fatally-beat-tyre-nichols-kidnapping/

 

Train cops all you want, either all these cops shouldn't have been hired in the first place or already showed signs of not adhering to police oaths and procedures,or where like 2 of Chauvin's thugs who were new rookies being trained and too fearful to speck up or take action.



BREAKING
7 Additional Memphis Police Officers To Be Disciplined For Tyre Nichols’ Death
Ty Roush
Forbes Staff
I cover breaking news.

snip:
"Jennifer Sink, the city’s chief legal officer, told council members Tuesday that seven more police officers will be issued a “statement of charges” for policy violations by the end of the week, adding the city will not identify the officers until an investigation is complete.


Councilmembers also requested Police Chief C.J. Davis and the Memphis Police Department compile a number of all involved officers and a timeline as to when investigations against them began.


Davis, who said “about 10” police officers responded to the traffic stop involving Nichols, said “wolf pack mentality, egos” lead to Nichols’ death—though she added each officer received “exceptional” training beforehand.


The city council proposed ordinances to establish procedures for an independent review of police training and new standards for traffic stops, which would require police officers to use only marked vehicles.

cont:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerr...lined-for-tyre-nichols-death/?sh=5ea244e476f0

 

This feeds into the rumor that there could have been some kind of connection between Tyre Nichols and Demetrius Haley's ex-girlfriend.

'Memphis Officer Texted Photo of Tyre Nichols After Beating, New Documents Show'
'The revelation came in Memphis police documents related to the firing of five officers who have been charged with murder in Mr. Nichols’s death.'

cont:
https://archive.is/wEDuG

 

As of yesterday other officers involved are being investigated yet no names were stated.
The civil rights charges can apply to anyone who didn't give medical aid to Tyre and were certified to do so.
We know the kidnapping charges for the 5 have been state charges,so far.


'Five unanswered questions about the Tyre Nichols case'
BY CHEYANNE M. DANIELS - 02/08/23 6:00 AM ET

1,Why was Nichols stopped?
2.How often did Scorpion task force stops turn violent?
3.Why did it take so long for help to arrive?
4.Who were the other officers involved?
5.How long will the civil rights investigation take?

cont:
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...swered-questions-about-the-tyre-nichols-case/

 

Everyone who had any interaction with the officers will sue:

 

“Despite policies requiring officers to activate their body cameras during “all law enforcement encounters and activities,” none of the officers’ body cameras captured the entire incident, according to the documents. One of the officers, Emmitt Martin III, at one point put his body camera in his car, the documents said.”

“Lt. Essica Cage-Rosario, the president of the Memphis Police Association, wrote letters for each of the five officers, saying that the union objected to the department’s move to fire them before the state had completed its investigation into Mr. Nichols’s death. Lieutenant Cage-Rosario also said that the department had not provided the union with body camera video or statements from the officers and witnesses before moving to fire them, adding that those were “only a few examples of the GROSS violations” of the officers’ right to due process.”

True there was body-camera video but on other officers because, apparently, five cops isn’t enough at a traffic stop.

Maybe it’s time to rewatch “A Clockwork Orange”?

 

It's being reported that all cases/convictions involving the Scorpion Unit are being investigated,


The Commercial Appeal
Tyre Nichols: Ex-Memphis officer wrote false reports, had own handcuffs
17 hours ago


AP News
Officer drew gun as he approached Tyre Nichols, report finds
16 hours ago


Memphis cop didn't tell Tyre Nichols why he was pulled over
1 day ago

 

Any person with half a brain knows that it means squat what they were told when they saw the condition Trye Nichols was in when they arrived at the scene and throughout the time they watched him in distress and rendered no medical aid.
A prosecutor will blow their offensive excuse to smithereens.

Union: Fired EMTs didn't get enough info in Nichols response
Source: AP

MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP) — The head of a union representing most of the Memphis Fire Department said three employees who were fired after the death of Tyre Nichols weren’t given enough information as they responded to the call for medical help.

Thomas Malone, president of the Memphis Fire Fighters Association, also wrote in a letter to city council members that information was withheld from those first responders by people on the scene.

Nichols, who is Black, was beaten by Memphis police after he was pulled over Jan. 7 for an alleged traffic violation. However, police Chief Cerelyn “CJ” Davis has said publicly released footage failed to show why Nichols was stopped at all.

The union leader came to the defense of the fire department as a whole, saying its more-than-1,600 employees “serve this city and its citizens with purpose and intent each and every day.”


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