To All Ron Paul supporters - I am abandoning his support, here's why:

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by peoplevsmedia, Oct 3, 2011.

  1. loong

    loong Banned

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    Antiauthoritarian, If you stated:

    "Give peace a chance irregardless of consequences"

    Then that is ridiculous appeasement, not foreign policy.

    And, it reflects your anti American pro Islamofascist stand on practically every issue dealing with our enemy .....especially with your support of a kook like Ron Paul who also goes against the judgment of practically all the members of Congress (except for maybe 1/2 a dozen) in the execution of a leader of the IslamoFascist Terrorist Swine, Awlaki.

    Even President Obama who is a blatantly Muslim Government appeaser, but not an Islamofascist TERRORIST appeaser gave the order to execute that scum IslamoFascist Terrorist Swine Awlaki ...... not so much because of Obama's ideology, but because of his political gamesmanship.

    In one of the posts to me you accused me of being "delusional" on this issue. That is patently BIZARRE. If I am "delusional" on the righteousness of Awlaki's execution, then ALL, or practically All, of the Congress of the United States of America is delusional.....including President Obama.

    And, together with the fact that your assumption that Awlaki is not even one of the leaders of our enemy, the Islamofascist Terrorist Swine, inspite of motivating the crazed Ft Hood Psychiatrist Jihadist Major Hasan, and others, on record, bespeaks of the fact that you stink as one who is an Islamofascist Swine ...... not an IslamoFascist TERRORIST Swine ...... but an IslamoFascist Swine.

    So, are you an IslamoFascist Swine ?????

    In point of fact.....are you even an American citizen ?????

    Because you sure sound as though you are one of the enemies of America either as one of the American Muslims ENEMY WITHIN.....or an Iranian Islamofascist stooge deliberately trying to obfuscate the notion that leaders of Islamofascist Terrorist Swine even exist when the whole non Islamic world names them as such.
     
  2. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    No one supports unchecked greed. That's what I believe his policies would lead to. Paul believes they'd be checked by market forces. Paul is a kind hearted person who is only doing what he thinks is best for America. But his policies absolutely would bring us back to the days of child labor and worker deaths. He literally wants to repeal the laws that were created as a result of that society. Why on earth wouldn't it go back to the way it was before those laws?
     
  3. peoplevsmedia

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    There is one good reason why no one in USSR trusted the media: because it was totaly one way, pro government - these manipulated discussions on the US media do not achieve anything, they expose the truth when it does not matter, they point fingers when the damage is already done, for it they get credebility as a worthy news source and fools us again. if the media here would be as bias as in USSR, people would wake up to it quicker, but now they lead the oposition by controling it. and ron paul is just a bait on the hook that they dangle for us, he is real unlike others, but he is on a hook, like a worm, can be taken out of the race at any time as they did in 08 by simply claiming people are tired of him or 100000 other things
     
  4. MissJonelyn

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    Because they weren't created as a result of that "society." Those laws were always unconstitutional for a reason and were overturned by the Supreme Court each time Congress tried to create such laws. The only reason they were passed because FDR did it under the scoop of the Great Depression in 1938 which brought a crippling economy to it's knees. There was no demand for minimum wage, social security, child labor laws or a 35 hour work week.

    Stop being a drone.
     
  5. driller80545

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    When the country goes bankrupt and the dollar becomes worthless, children will be thrilled to get to work. Besides, I believe in child labor, how else will they ever learn how to work?
    Without Paul as pres, I predict total chaos by 2014.
    LOL, alright, attack that people.
     
  6. Politically Correction

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    <<<MOD EDIT:INSULT>>> I agree with most of what antiauthoritarian has said.

    I would say that Congress is not delusional however they do have an agenda. <<<MOD EDIT:INSULT>>> You are falling for their agenda of expanding the power of governmental. If they can assassinate a US citizen without a trial or appeal just think what they could do to you. In fact now we are no longer protected from assassination. If the CIA thinks that we are a threat they can tell us to drop dead. So if you want to let them get away with assassinating a US citizen you better not complain when you are not given a fair trial or the ability to submit an appeal.

    It would also be extremely naive to trust the government to discern who is enough of a 'threat' to be executed or not. Shouldn't we let a court decide if someone is enough of a threat to receive the death penalty? Is it really that much to ask for a fair trial?

    Should that guy have been killed? Yes, but there is a court for that. There is a death penalty for that.
     
  7. SiliconMagician

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    Look man, anyone who says that America should "butt out" and if Iran gets a nuke then so be it, is no man I want running the Foreign Policy of this country.

    A man who says that If China invades Taiwan, that we should just let them conquer those people, is not someone I want to run the Foreign Policy of the USA.

    A man who says he wants to destroy the monetary system that has endured for 100 years in order to return to some mythical idea that we can all carry gold coins and private bank notes in our pockets for currency like it's the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing 19th Century, is not someone I want running Domestic Policy.

    I want someone mainstream, not radical whackjob.
     
  8. Roon

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    A. The killing of an American citizen (which Awlaki was) without due process of law is hands down no exceptions against the law.

    B. The conservative darling Michael Savage agreed with Ron Paul on this very issue because he was right and Michael Savage to his great credit is able to think independently on at least some issues.
     
  9. Roon

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    Mainstream as in shrink government at home except for the DOD? Yourself and the other Neo-Con hypocrites are the very thing that is wrong with the republican party....you want to have your cake and eat it to. You want government out of your healthcare but are perfectly fine paying for unconstitutional wars and nation building. You don't ACTUALLY want smaller government, for if you did you would support Ron Paul, you just want small government when it suits you and big government everywhere else.

    What a sad sad unprincipled and hypocritical position. I actually feel sorry for you.
     
  10. Shangrila

    Shangrila staff Past Donor

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    Have you ever considered that, regardless of how he presents his message, those unwilling to hear the truth will never do so?
    So why change? Present the truth and nothing but.
     
  11. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    lol I have never read a bigger revision of history in my life. There was a reason FDR was elected 4 terms in a row.
     
  12. peoplevsmedia

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    I have, ok... presenting the truth is one thing, getting in a card game with a bunch of criminal cheats is a very different thing: now we will all go "ah, the majority of people are idiots, they don't believe in truth"....

    But that is not at all the case. that is my problem with Ron Paul in their race. not him speaking.
     
  13. loong

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    For my detailed response to your post, please read the new thread I will post sometime today, or tomorrow.
     
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    The MSM is part of the establishment system which is destroying us and taking us to war. They "the establisment, AAE interests) are worried about ron Paul, he will try and ruin their criminal fun.



    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AwA7kRrVSk"]Busted: Fox News Caught In Ron Paul Dirty Tricks Video Deception! - YouTube[/ame]
     
  15. Roon

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    Yea, it feels good to spend money. Its easy to create "good times" doing it. Everyone loves to spend money.
     
  16. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    FDR knew as do most of today's economists know that if customers aren't spending money and businesses aren't spending money then Government sure as hell better be spending money. If no one is spending money then deflation happens. Which results in less investment and higher national debts and even less spending.
     
  17. MissJonelyn

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    Because there was no term limits, duh.

    Other than that, your history is very distorted. Mostly EVERYTHING FDR did during his presidency was overturned by the Supreme Court.

    Know your history.
     
  18. Serfin' USA

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    Of course, those are staples of the conservative way.
     
  19. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's getting kind of stale. If you're going to do what you are doing, at least throw in some colorful commentary. I imagine you're even boring yourself at this point.
     
  20. Antiauthoritarian

    Antiauthoritarian Active Member

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    Your going to have to connect the dots for me there. Which policies, specifically, would lead us back to the bad old days?
     
  21. Antiauthoritarian

    Antiauthoritarian Active Member

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    I get it, you want the status quo lawless authoritarian tyranny that is driving us to total economic collapse. Any other candiate will do for that, R or D. That's what "mainstream" is all about. Ron Paul is the only candidate who wants to put a stop to that madness and restore rule of law, the constitution being the supreme law, as it clearly states.

    If he wins the presidency, he can't ban the Fed and repeal laws all by himself and he knows that. But he can at least put the executive branch back into its constitutional bounds and he'll have veto power.

    Iran is not working on a nuke and China is not going to invade Taiwan.
     
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    Yeah.... SS is working out great now isn't it?

    Complete pyramid/ponzi scheme.
     
  23. Jack Ridley

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    ......Why?
     
  24. MissJonelyn

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    Because Stone Cold said so...
     
  25. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    SS has never not paid a single retiree what they are owed. SS makes a profit for the treasury. SS is the only risk free retirement investment you can make. It's definitely among FDR's most successful legacy programs.
     

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