If you are in favor of prohibitions on firearm ownership or carry, do this one thing for me. (Preferable): find a friend who has knowledge of firearm use; Go to your local range; Shoot a handgun, preferably a caliber with minimal/moderate recoil such as .38 special, 22LR, etc; (Preferable) learn how to holster and unholster a handgun safely; Talk to the range officer about legislation in your local area Don't be afraid, it's just a lump of metal that can fire a piece of lead at 1200fps. It's not going to hurt you unless you intend it to (or do something monstrously stupid). If you follow the RO's directions, everything will be alright. Keep the safety on until he tells you to take it off, and make sure you keep your finger out of the trigger guard until the firearm is pointed at the target. [hr][/hr] There are two types of anti-gunners: 1. Those who are anti-gun due to ignorance 2. Those who are anti-gun due to an affirmative opinion on the subject, and familiarity with firearms. This post is aimed at the former group. Many anti-gun people I know have become pro-gun through simple use of firearms. It's like anything: if you go skydiving a few times you tend to become less afraid of it. If you're a member of the latter group, go about your business - you've already done this one thing for me.
A lot of their hate comes from ignorance. Education is the key. The same people usually say that to eliminate poverty, you need to give good education and opportunities. I will be happy to do the same for all of their hate speech.
anti-gunners, or graboids now that the name has caught on, would rather teach fear and terror. I think it's some vain attempt to make themselves victims without being accosted... heck we even had one in here that was so paranoid about getting sniper'ed, they were almost paralyzed to go outside. they were actually in fear of getting sniper'ed in a large city form a mile away. Now there's a certain level of firearm education that astounds me.
Done all that Also though have looked after 16 year old who shot off his own face 27 year old who took out both eyes, young woman who had a shotgun discharged into her face, the guy who we emptied all of the blood in the city into because his brother had shot him in the liver, the kid with the air rifle pellet lodged under the eye the guy who got drunk and put a bullet up through his head from under the chin.................. And I do not have an extensive experience with gun shot injuries - not like my American counterparts Oh! And those who think that having guns available is worth the increased mortality and morbidity rates should volunteer to assist grieving families in ED and ICU
would that include looking after the screw-ball idiots that try to murder people and have the tables turned on them? would that also include cops who shoot innocents? I see you still desire to turn all of America into criminals at your behest
Do the gunshot victims look worse than those who have been injured in auto or motorcycle wrecks? If not, what are your feeling about vehicle bans? Most gunshot wounds leave fairly small entry and exit wounds, even larger caliber rounds with higher cut and tear factors. However, wounds from swords, axes, machetes, war hammers and other more ancient weapons where usually far worse than typical gunshot wounds. Do you also have no axes at your home?
http://www.njms.in/article.asp?issn...volume=5;issue=1;spage=74;epage=78;aulast=Kar Yes - although that depends on a lot of factors in each case. Bottom line though is that there is a a LOT of tissue disruption - especially with higher powered weapons. It is NOT like TV where you see the hero with a nice neat hole being dabbed at by his supermodel girlfri No-one is suggesting a total gun ban - I certainly don't but I do advocate rational legislation such as has been enacted for vehicles Most gunshot wounds leave fairly small entry and exit wounds, even larger caliber rounds with higher cut and tear factors. They are not worse because they are low velocity mechanisms of injury which cause minimal tissue disruption. There are multiple reports of patients turning up to ED with a tomahawk sticking out of their heads - shoot them with a high velocity bullet though and you get this This shows the disruption waves surrounding the passage of the bullet. All of that area will scar and be low functionality IF the person survives Compare that with, from the same journal, this CT of a knife wound to the skull (don't ask what force was need to drive a clasp knife that deep through skull into brain) Although at first glance this looks worse the edges of the wound are clean and once the haematoma is evacuated, bleeding stopped then the patient should have a good functional recovery
As I am also involved with the medical field, I'm fairly well versed on such things. For all the force of modern rifle rounds, they did in fact leave smaller wound channels that allowed scientists after WW1 to determine what areas of the brain were used for what functions. The famous case of the guy getting a crowbar throught his skull shows that such injuries to the head by spears, knives and so forth are survivalble. However, I'd rather have been shot with a rifle in WW1 than get hacked with a axe, sword or other weapon in 1066. Unlike the movies, one good hit with one of those would take an arm or head off. Aside from the dozen guns in my home, I have 2 swords, an axe, a hatchet, a chainsaw and four motor vehicles. I feel I had the most likelyhood of danger when operating the chainsaw and vehicles.
For you maybe but that is not always the case no? A 15 year old coloured child in a poor neighbourhood is not likely to be at greater risk of chainsaw injury - oh! Silly me I forgot - they don't count do they? PS the WWI weaponry was low velocity for the most part and if you want to read a heart rending story read A. R. Luriia's Man with a Shattered World. It tells of a WWII Russian soldier who had been to university before the war (from memory he was an engineer) http://medhum.med.nyu.edu/view/202 Truly heroic day to day struggle
Okay = are you going to round up everyone in America who does not or cannot or better yet should not own a gun and put them somewhere else? Might work so long as that somewhere else is not here........................................
Any modern military rifle round of the last 100 years will go through humans and cause significant trauma. Does not matter if is from a WW1 British .303 at 2,440 feet per second, or a WW2 Garand at 2,800 fps. Looking at the death of our President JFK, he did initially survive a through and through shot by an Italinan WW2 bolt action rifle, but had his head was blasted apart by a puny M-16 round fired accidently by his security agent riding in the car behind him. More than velocity, bullet design and twist factors are what make modern rounds so deadly. There are more heart-warming stories about your Soviet heroes (ignoring the Geneva Convention as usual) using exploding rifle rounds in their sniper rifles. They were first used in the Finnish Winter War in 1939. The great Finnish hero Simo Hayha was hit in the face with one of these rounds, yet survived. Later in WW2, Germans on the Eastern Front were often hit with these nasty rounds. In the book Sniper on the Eastern Front the German narrator witnessed the side of one his buddies skull blown off by a Soviet explosive round. Although he pretty much gave him up for dead, his buddy did survive the war. The only justice found in the book is when the narrator and other German snipers used these captured Soviet exploding rounds and rifles against their Commie foes. You should be glad to know that no, not a single Allied soldier, Soveit or American or British, or other, has been convicted of a single war crime from WW2. Please understand these were The Greatest Generation and they were better than you and me and could be as bad as they wanted to be.
Saw this in a "discredited" documentary: JFK The Smoking Gun. Seems to make sense, assuming the Oswald had first plugged his rifle with empty shell casing and fired the other shots. JFK's brain with bullet fragments was taken by his brother "and lost." The heavy FMJ rounds Oswald was firing would have passed clean through JFK's head, not left fragments.
I don't know about that at all. I think that is complete speculation that an M16 went off and hit him
They're all dead now anyhow. There are more important issues to deal with, like Global Warming and Bruce Jenner's sex change.
LOL, we're doomed I say. I wonder what the guys who lost to Jenner in 76 are saying damn, I lost to a girl!!
