To those that feel we should not support Trump

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  1. SillyAmerican

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    My post is not trying to suggest anything.

    In your post, you said
    To which I replied
    While both statements are true, only one is meaningful with respect to who wins a presidential election. Unfortunately for you, the meaningful statement isn't yours.

    As to your other assertion, Trump is clearly capable of getting his message across, in spite of what the media does. If you don't believe that, I would ask that you review what occurred on November 8th, 2016...
     
  2. HereWeGoAgain

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    You mean the media comes up with useful information? Wow!!! Let me write that down.

    Next you're going to tell me that lawyers specialize in law.

    Did you learn about this on Breitbart?
     
  3. Andrew Jackson

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    Where else?

    99% of the RW at PF are constantly parroting the Fever Swamp.
     
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    another post attempting slight of hand. your statement about his IQ is incorrect, it isnt true.
     
  5. Andrew Jackson

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    Trump's IQ is probably around 100.

    He has proven nothing more than that he is a trainable savant with Asperger's.
     
  6. Maxwell

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    For sure. Dr Ben Carson is also an idiot that can barely tie his shoes, huh.

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    Exactly. I call them "propaganda parrots".

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    Exactly. I call them "propaganda parrots".
     
  7. Andrew Jackson

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    Just like the daily regimen of all of those at PF with Trump Snowflake Stockholm Syndrome (TS3) that refresh Breitbart and Infowars every 5 seconds and rush here to start multiple threads?

    Pot meet kettle.
     
  8. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    You and Trump supporters like you are projecting...the mass whom rejects Trump, or what he stands for have nothing to do with what you stated...perhaps that is how your ilk operates though.
     
  9. HereWeGoAgain

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    Likewise, they imagine that we all loved Hillary. I couldn't stand Hillary but I hate Trump with a passion for who and what he is - scum and dangerous. No one needs to tell me that. Just listen to the man speak for an hour. He speaks for himself. Scum and dangerous.
     
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    You should at least know who you're talking to. I made absolutely no statement about anybody's IQ.
     
  11. Abandon

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    There is a reason for that, though. In Europe we're often told the US election system is one of the fairest in the world, because the wealthy coastal regions (who voted almost exclusively for Hillary) don't get to enforce their will on the poorest inland regions because they're more densely populated. Every state gets an equal say on the country's politics regardless of popular vote of the overall population.

    In such a vast, diverse country, it makes sense to have a system like this.
     
  12. Sampson Simpon

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    Trump needs to do something, anything, to be worthy of giving a chance. So far, he's a complete train wreck, the stuff he is going for is horrible. So no, he doesn't deserve to be given when he shows no regards for the majority of the country, and cares more about how he looks and people having to like and adore him

    He has done absolutely nothing presidential so far
     
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    I think I'd prefer waterboarding.
     
  14. Matthewthf

    Matthewthf Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are generalizing. I am not starting multiple threads all the time and I have worked 12 hour days all week so I don't have time to constantly watch breitbart or infowars and to be honest I have never watched those shows. So your accusation that every Trump supporter does this is wrong and is it not fair to say a lot of anti Trump people are starting multiple threads as well?

    You say he has proven nothing so I guess those thousands of jobs he saved proves nothing?

    I see you are only interested in trying to make us out to be the bad guys. We are the good guys. We prevented Hillary from taking over remember?
     
  15. Matthewthf

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    Obviously you chose not to read my original post where I stated Trump has saved many jobs already. I guess giving hard working American's back their jobs or creating more jobs for them is not worthy in your book? This is why Hillary lost. She did not care about these things either. People in Ohio are wondering how they are going to put food on their plate every night but that does not matter to you does it? Hillary had no plan for these people. I think Trump is doing a great job so far.
     
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    I don't imagine you love Hillary. I just remind you of your choices. Hillary or Trump. We picked the better of the two people.

    I saw an episode on TV. I think it was 60 minutes but I could be wrong. It showed a part of OH that is so poor that most people there have to rely on a food pantry just to get by and that is not even enough for some. The food pantry was also running out of money. To make things worse one family living in a RV was trying to get by with a bag of popcorn for dinner most nights. 2 adults and 2 teenage kids trying to survive on only a bag of popcorn for dinner. Jobs in the area was scarce or going out of business. Hillary had no plans to help these people. Trump offered them hope and more jobs.

    These people are wondering how to put food on the dinner plate. I seriously doubt they care what you think about Trump. You can say why you don't like Trump but that does not fix are job problem and if Trump is going to fix that problem then I say he is doing a great job. Love or hate him but he is doing some great things for America.
     
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    Trump never lost no popular vote because he never campaigned for a popular vote. The Electoral College has 50 individual popular votes to see which states will go to which candidate to decide our president. Trump took 30 of these states and Hillary only took 20. Trump campaign for the EC and won. The total number of votes does not matter in deciding our president and never will unless you want the 10 million people in Los Angeles to decide our president for the rest of our lives. That's not very fair is it?
     
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    It would be totally fair if you believe each vote should count the same. You just have some kind of prejudice against those people, it would seem.
     
  19. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Uh...no, it doesn't, it's an absolutely silly system because it makes the assumption that NOBODY in an area voted for anyone but whoever was in the majority there.

    And it is totally irrelevant at this point. Trump is indeed, our President, and this is why we should all be united in an all-out and emergency level effort to keep him from stripping us all of our rights and ending the United States of America as we know it. He is the most dangerous man to the United States that has ever yet existed and he must be stopped
     
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    Yeah that's true but the bottom line is Trump lost the popular vote by millions
     
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    We don't expect trump worshippers to change their minds. They are in the minority.
    You can polish his turds all day long, but Sisyphus had the easier job.

    I have been observing trump for decades and it's crystal clear that he is totally unfit for the job because of his defective character.
    He has no love for the country or its people.
    His only interest is himself and how much he can get away with.
    He has to hide his past because he is totally compromised by special interests.
    Why do you think that a narcissistic braggart like him would refuse to release his tax returns if they supported his claims about his vast wealth?
    He's obviously hiding something serious.
    Forget the Russians for the moment. Trump has been a mafia lapdog for decades, taking huge loans from mafia bosses when the banks refused him any more credit because of his track record. Years ago, he was suspected of returning the favor by letting the mob launder their money through his casinos.
    All of that was real news decades ago, and anyone with a shred of love or respect for their country would have puked at the thought of installing a bigoted, dishonest con artist like him as their potus.
    Trump's defective personality and character are already encouraging the racists and hate-mongers to come crawling out from under their rocks and strut around like peacocks.
    They are just following his examples.
    What do you tell men who assault women when they say, well, the potus does the same thing?
    What do you tell tax cheats when they say, well, the potus does the same thing?
    What do you teach your children about civility and decency when they see trump's puerile and vicious antics and they say, well, the potus does the same thing?

    Cons will undoubtedly continue to polish his turds, but you people are leaning on a very thin reed and it most likely won't end well because of who Trump is as a human being, not because of any particular policy.
     
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    Yet many can't handle the obvious. So it bears repeating on occasion.
     
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    by obvious you must mean that Trump got his ass whooped in the general election.
     
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    I see you buy into the "opposition government"s " story line. When that finally goes away, and the coup is unsuccessful, what will you do?
     
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    there is no coup, you are paranoid
     

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