Tony Abbott knights Prince Philip

And you can't see your contradiction can you, sheesh. Firstly I didn't say they are awarded for military service, I said that in the past 50 years or so they have been awards of merit. Now what you said, first it was bugger all, for non-Aussies AND you that means none, zero, zilch. NOW, BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION IT IS NOW very, very, very few.

very, very, very few is not bugger all, it's some. So in modern times some have been awarded knighthoods. Bugger all is your knowledge on this subject ... or ... what PP has done to deserve his.... If I am wrong about PP, prove it, just don't get on your lil keyboard and say I am wrong ... prove it .... grow some balls man.

Oh and before you get on your Abbott High Horse, it is impossible to prove he has done nothing, there is no list of things the Prince hasn't done, proving he has done something however could possibly be proven.

SO PROVE IT

 

Thank you BeeVee and welcome to the Aussie section. Your link has saved me an embarrassment.

Adultmale ... I have found what he has done.

So, in 1943, Phil thought to throw a wooden raft in the water. And as the article stated ....

Of course it was "a remarkable act of heroism" throwing a raft in the water is very heroic, remarkably so. Wait wait ... that was a British ship, so why does't his Missus give him one. Why are we awarding him a knighthood, and when Robot said services to the country, he meant Australia, it is us giving him the award. Do YOU really think that that is "a remarkable act of heroism"?

Oh wait there, it didn't say HE threw it, it said he thought of the idea, now that is remarkable.

 

Har har har so now you are trying to wiggle out of it by playing with semantics. Are you really an Aussie? 'Bugger all' means nothing or very few. The term can mean either. And you did say they were awarded for military service, stop trying to deny it. You haven't answered my question, " what steps have you taken to ensure your claim that Prince Phillip has done nothing for Australia is correct"? Or is it just another opinion that you pulled out of thin air?
Tell us, how many Dames and Kighthoods have been awarded in the last 80yrs and how many of those have been awarded exclusively for military service?

 

Me, I am playing with semantics, my God man, that's all you have been doing. Now you have moved the goal posts once again, now you want to know how many have received the Order exclusively for military service. NO ONE, not me nor even Axial have mentioned exclusive! Running scared are you?

Yes I did say they were awarded for military service, and I posted examples, yes there is only 2 that I could find, but even only one sets the precedence. You do understand the word precedence don't you? Our law is based upon it.

Even Bolt, Murdoc and Jones, three of Abbott's most ardent supporters don't agree with you. You also don't know of any reason he should be awarded one. Actually the only person to come up with a reason is that Canadian guy who posted the link about how he probably saved some lives by coming up with the idea to throw a raft overboard. But that was before he was even dating the Queen, and it all involved English ships English lives and was over 60 years ago.

To award him one based purely on that would break your and Axial's rule about it NOT BEING A MILITARY ORDER. It would also be an affront to the 10's of thousands of Australian born soldiers that HAVE done heroic deeds, and an insult to nearly every Australian who has done much more for our country, and especially for those Australians that have done beyond what an ordinary mortal does.

Bolt and Jones have done more for Australia..... God did I really say that? How is the thesis going?

 

You've had me cackling with every response DV. AM and AT certainly struggle with comprehension. Unless you can draw pretty pictures here they just may not get it.

SDPP obviously hasn't done anything outstanding that Australians can identify with that makes him a man of inspiration for the nation. Sir John Bertrand was a man that picked up Australia's spirit like no other. Yes, it was a sporting feat but one that brought the house down and lifted our pride like no other in modern times. Maybe it could be Sir Allan Bond :O......sorry bondie, but I don't think it will cut it. We have home bred hero's here in Australia that have put Australia on the map who could have been recognised seeing we are handing this out....I mean, seeing Tony is handing this out.

At the end of the day to give this honour legitimacy it shouldn't be a politician solely selecting an individual, especially someone like Abbott. Before we know it we will have Sir Rupert Murdoch, Sir John Howard and Sir Alan Jones etc etc! I reckon he would have mentioned it to Little Johnny and little Johnny would have known that with this clown solely handing out the honours it would have left a filthy stain on it and controversial stench in the air.

 

You think that is good don't you LOL. Define distinguished as you think its meant here? Actually dont bother, you know nothing of which you post half the time. Have a guess who was one of the 3 people deciding who to Knight.... its good when the people picking end up getting it themselves. I still dont see the fuss over PPhillip, he has served our nation by serving our Queen

 

Mate, you are a champion at splitting hairs!

At last! thank you for finally agreeing that I was right.

WTF are you talking about now!?

What have I said that they don't agree with?

Wrong. Whoever decides who gets a knighthood had a reason.

You have not been paying attention DV, I have not said it is not a military order.

 

This is a joke .... yes

Here is another

When confirming his decision to honour the Prince of Edinburgh with an Australian knighthood, Prime Minister Tony Abbott conceded he didn't consult colleagues before his announcement. If given the chance, what might ministers have advised the Prime Minister around the cabinet table?

PM: It's great to be Australian. How do you like the table?

Joe Hockey: It's round!

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PM: Exactly. Just like you used to be, Joe. Now, now, don't sulk. Of course it's round. Think classical British history. Knights of the...Sorry, Julie. Anyway, talking of knights.

Scott Morrison: Oh, Tony, you shouldn't have, but I'll accept any honour you might wish to bestow.

PM: Ha ha, good one, Scott. I already made you an admiral until you ran out of boats. No. I'm going to knight Phil.

Chorus: Phil who?

PM: His royal highness.

Cabinet members: (long silence. Sounds of indrawn breath)

Julie Bishop: You're such a jester Tony.

PM: No, fair dinkum. Blow for multiculturalism. Phil the Greek, by way of the Mother Country, crown on our fair shores. That sort of thing. Should be able to sell it big on the foreign circuit. What are you doing back here, anyway?

Malcolm Turnbull: He's not Greek. More Russian, actually. And the round table was a legend, not classical history.

PM: You looking for a shirt-fronting, Malcolm?

Mathias Cormann: Philip's wife is practically German. And she's got the crown.

Eric Abetz: And what's wrong with that?

PM: She's a majestic English rose! Just like me. Anyway, we're off subject. Australia's gonna have a Duke for a Sir, and that's that.

Turnbull: May as well make Fergie a Dame!

Warren Truss: Ah, the Fergie, wonderful machine. Could pull stumps out of a swamp all day long. Deceptively strong little thing.

Bishop: WARREN!!!!

Ian Macfarlane: He's talking about the tractor. They were around in the old days when we used to make things in Australia.

PM: Exactly. Traction. That's what we're after. We've scraped the barnacles off the hull and we're gonna make it gleam and cut through the waves. A knight for a new day.

Turnbull (whispering behind hand): He's finally blown a gasket.

Bishop (also muttering behind hand): Flipped his wig.

Hockey: Knew it ever since he made me Treasurer.

PM (leaping on the table, brandishing his dubbing sword): I heard that! Take their names, Peta! Their names!

Peta Credlin: There there, Prime Minister. Here's a pill.

Turnbull, Bishop and Hockey (in unison): Better make it one of those special ones they gave Kevin.

 

How is that thesis coming along?

 

Har har har har! Mate, all the hair splitting, misdirection, missquoting, false reason, false association, out of context statements, straw clutching and semantic gymnastics will not get you out of it.

 

Minister George Brandis has today put on record Tony Abbott shall withdraw Prince Phillips Australian Knighthood next week!

(Brandis) "If he (Abbott) makes the wrong call on something as ephemeral as whether or not Prince Philip should be a knight of the order of Australia, heavens above, that is so much a 10th order issue."

ephemeral> lasting for a very short time.

 

Tony Abbott remains a British Citizen and as such can be British Knighted.

Now how to get in favour with Her royal Majesty. Here you are lovey, an Australian Knighthood for your husband, now be a good thing and don't forget the name Anthony John Abbott when you next do your honours, me being such a good friend to your spouse Phillip!

 

(Brandis) "If he (Abbott) makes the wrong call on something as ephemeral as whether or not Prince Philip should be a knight of the order of Australia, heavens above, that is so much a 10th order issue."

You are on the money on both points! If Abbott can stuff up something as simple as bestowing a knighthood, he will certainly stuff up on issues much more serious. We already knew he was a danger to the country, we've been saying this well before he was elected!

 

Abbotts desire to be seen a as real Britisher, just awaiting his Knighthood, has taken on the Her Majesties Royal we, when speaking of himself.

“I don’t say for a second that we haven’t made mistakes. I don’t say for a second that we can’t do things better,” he told reporters in Sydney.

 

I have had a suspicion "stuttering Stanely" was setting himself up for a Knighthood, by kissing her majesties arse.

 

He didn't stuff it up, its just Australian's have no idea what a knighthood is meant to mean to Australians. I've people actually say the knighthood is meant to represent us and our values, LOL wtf. No, knighthood's are honorary titles to represent cultural and social reconigition. This particular knighting was to recognise the relationship between Australia and the Crown. Nothing more and nothing less. Many Australian's are so lacking in their own self worth that they struggle with their identity so it explains why so many got so upset about it.... pathetic. Its not who I would have chosen, I would have gone with at least 1 women, such as the wife of the heir instead of Phillip, and Julie Bishop instead of Angus Houston....
... lol, just kidding. Instead of Houston I would have looked over the OA list for anyone who'd continued the hard work successfully into other disciplines after their AO/AM award, sort of like a higher award/rank (which is in effect what it is) where the either an AM or AO are prerequisites for a Knighthood, ;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_Australia

 

No. What is really pathetic, is that "stuttering Stanely" only Knighted PP, because he thinks he will get Knighted by the Queen by doing PP a favour. That has nothing to do with your opinion about Australians having problems with self-worth and identity. Abbott Knighting PP is about Abbotts lack of morals, ethics and principals, and the facts he is only thinking about HIMSELF - nothing more. The same instance applies to his bloody daughter getting a scholardhip she didn't deserve, and was NOT available to anyone else. In Abbotts mind its all about self-interest, and only someone with Abbotts dubious credibility wouldn't be able to see that.

 

Maybe, but until it happens its called a conspiracy theory. In the meantime I'd rather discuss the issues

It's an observation which also explains the public reaction... you might not like it, but its an alternative view on the actual topic.

According to your conspiracy theory, have fun with that...

He wasn't PM at the time nor particularly likely to be PM. Private scholarships work like that, its only a big deal if it fits into your conspiracy theory (which it does for you) or if your a political dirt digger trying to throw mud for political gain.

 

What really stinks and you know it, is that Abbott thought his daughter was "entitled" to a scholarship available to no one else because she was Tony Abbotts daughter. Otherwise the scholarship would have been general knowledge, and every other student would have been able to apply for it. The same thing is happening with the erroneous Knighthood, this scum-bag with the morals of a sewer-rat just thinks by doing the Queen a favour he will get one back.

You don't make me doubt myslef with your accusation of conspiracy theory nonsense in the face of common sense & logic.

By the way, when the scholarship was awarded, Abbott WAS the PM

 

First Dog was right on top of it as usual. The end of satire as we know it, no less!

 

He stuffed up! You sound confused. The award aims to honour Australians for varying reasons that overlap including representing our values!

The clown knew his people wouldn't support it and went ahead with his captains pick. He was setting himself up for a future knighthood. He is a self absorbed lunatic that can't help himself. He is the real life Mr Bean but without the comedy!

 

Today, Tony Abbotts State of the Nation Address deserves Winston Churchill a posthumous Australian Knighthood.
Abbott blamed Australians for all his problems. Repeatedly pointed out other Australians not to be like, while Churchill stood shoulder to shoulder with Australians, who did more good for Australia than Prince Phillip or any Government!

 

If Churchill stood shoulder to shoulder with Australians, then he would have been dead on a Gallipoli beach, along with the rest of the thousands HE got killed in his disasterous plan.

Churchill doing good for Australia: tell that to the families of the soldiers who never returned from Gallipoli, and see what they tell you. The majority celebrated the day he took his last breath.

 

I part of a family who sons fought and died on Gallipoli!"

"The majority celebrated the day he took his last breath" Where did you get that little gem from?