Top Evangelical Magazine Calls For Trump’s Removal From Office

I don't have a political party, but I used to be a Christian, so that's always an interesting topic of discussion for me. I think religion and politics, especially public policy and law, should be kept separate as much as possible. You go worship as you please and don't try to impose your oppressive beliefs on others who don't share them by perverting the secular government.

Also, I haven't seen any reasoning from you whatsoever. Just an appeal to being Eastern Orthodox, as though that could serve as an explanation. To me, that just makes you a groupthinker who would rather not be critical of his own beliefs.

 

Your petulance as well as the pride in your stubborn refusal to acquiesce to the facts comes thru loud and clear. I couldn't help noticing you said you hold fast "your beliefs" and not the facts. Very telling.

 

Actually, he has. But what does his inevitable acquittal have to do with his guilt? Surely you don't think Senate Repubs will be basing their vote on the facts.

 

I didn't start out as Eastern Orthodox, I joined the religion because my Catholic Church was making to many compromises. I wanted to go to a Church where hell still existed and the commandments were commandments and not suggestions. It was a conscious decision on my part.

 

I wonder whether it will actually be inevitable if reason finally prevails in the Senate and witnesses are called on to provide evidence. We'll see what happens in the new year, when negotiations will resume.

 

Says the man talking down to Christians while using a slur in the thread title.

 

My cult was ELS Lutheran, also very conservative with a strong belief in hell and all that. Sola Scriptura Bible literalists. The obvious faults in the Bible and all of the contradictions between it and modern science eventually drove me to embrace what I already knew in my heart, and so I am a born again atheist.

 

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This editorial is notable for its intellectual honesty and consistency. Because CT called for Clinton's impeachment along the same moral grounds they call for Trump's.
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"The reason many are not shocked about this is that this president has dumbed down the idea of morality in his administration. He has hired and fired a number of people who are now convicted criminals. He himself has admitted to immoral actions in business and his relationship with women, about which he remains proud. His Twitter feed alone—with its habitual string of mischaracterizations, lies, and slanders—is a near perfect example of a human being who is morally lost and confused."
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So..........he's UNAMBIGUOUSLY guilty..........and he is morally unfit to be prez.

Yeah but, Trumpette's say........how about that tax cut that is bankrupting us?[/QUOTE]

That he asked for the announcement of an investigation is fact. Why he did it is opinion. It couldn't be more ambiguous.

 

Jim Wallis, one of the nation's most prominent liberal evangelical leaders, called the op-ed's stance a "huge, watershed event," adding that the magazine is arguably the leading evangelical magazine in the nation.

"What CT is saying in their editorial is removing Donald Trump from office is now a matter of faith, not politics, and I agree," Wallis told CNN.

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"They have made the Faustian bargain that no matter what he does, it's all acceptable because he gives them the judges he wants," says Wallis, author of "Christ in Crisis: Why We Need to Reclaim Jesus."

... https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/19/politics/christianity-today-op-ed-trump-removal-office/index.html​

Jim goes on to predict that this will have the greatest impact on "suburban white women and younger evangelicals who are already jaded by older evangelicals' embrace of Trump."

 

Time is on Trump's side.

 

Emotion is not constrained by consistency. This op ed will have zero effect.

 

There is no party of infanticide - you are being obtuse. The claim that Blue is the party of infanticide is moronic.

 

Not on ardent cultists, perhaps, but it is bound to have some impact on reasonable people who have been tolerating Trump for his judge appointments or economic policies. It will at least stir some discussion among readers, especially when Trump fires back that the magazine is "far left" in response

 

If you try to rob a bank and get caught before you even get the money you still get charged with bank robbery. He tried to get the Ukraine governement to publicly announce the investigation into biden. Didn't need any actual dirt, the announcement would be plenty for "Lock him up" chants.

 

Wait!
When did I get blamed for this?
What?
Oh .
Nevermind.


Can't be angry all the time, it's unhealthy

 

Is there A conspiracy today website?

 

But the fact remains that the President HAD AN ABSOLUTE RIGHT to investigate all aspects of a country that he was about to give foreign aid to.

BTW it is the law.

 

Lies and untruths about abortion. The Simple Scientific Truth: Abortion is performed to put an end to a life.

 

And now Latvia is investigating the Biden money laundering. Meanwhile, the family law judge in Arkansas will probably end up in a single car roadside accident.

 

One person's opinion? Really?

No one cares.

 

With only ~100k paid circulation, it's not even remotely arguable; this magazine isn't "leading" anything.

Thread was over today after Franklin Graham called this out and reiterated his and his deceased father Billy Graham's (the magazine's founder) unwavering support for and admiration of Donald Trump.

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To my great surprise NBC told that like it is on the evening news, even that Billy Graham stated that God had chosen Trump for this juncture in the nation's history.

 

Thou shalt not lie?

 

Not always
The same surgical procedure that is used for abortion is also used for removal of retained products of conception after a miscarriage, but you specifically said “murdering babies”

Northam was clearly talking of palliative care for those babies born so deformed death is inevitable but the right and especially the so called pro lifers love lies

 

Nice summation of the political expediency rationale.