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Trial for five men charged with planning 9/11 to start in 2021, 20 years after attack

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by APACHERAT, Sep 4, 2019.

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  1. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    18 of the 19 9/11 Al Qaeda terrorist were illegal aliens. The Democrats call them undocumented Democrats.

    But lets go to another terrorist attack where stupid people adopted cultural-marxism (political correctness)
    The Hunt for Terrorists Runs Up Against Political Correctness
    one excerpt:
     
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    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    So you have nothing to back up your "facts"
     
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  3. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe it's mentioned in the 9/11 Commission Report.

    It goes beyond 9/11.

    political correctness is jeopardizing our national security.
     
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  4. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Aren't you a liberal or something like that ?

    When did you start paying attention to facts ?
     
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  5. Eleuthera

    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    I hope you didn't google his name the way you spell it above. Garbage in, garbage out.

    Do you believe everything that US intelligence tells you to believe?
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not necessarily.

    I know an airline captain who flew that day out of Newark. After dispatch procedures he headed to his airplane. That morning all the security checkpoints he passed through were unmanned.

    UA 93 departed from Newark.
     
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  7. EarthSky

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    Where the hell did that come from? I was writing on a phone in a hurry and made a typo. I was mostly agreeing with you.

    What in my post would lead you to believe I lap up anything American intelligence says?

    I fact check things so I don't believe everything overtly rude folks on the internet say either.
     
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    The official version and conspiracy theories cannot logically explain the events of 9/11/2001, since there was no real investigation.
    No investigation = cover up
     
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  9. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Newark is such a crappy airport.
     
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    Not sure I'd automatically say lack of investigation = coverup though it may very well be so.

    The investigation was deeply flawed though. To bolster your statment, consider how plane crashes are usually investigated. The Lockerbie plane was pulled from the ocean and carefully reconstructed in a giant hanger and photographic forensic evidence published and made public.

    For the plane that hit the Pentagon there was none of that. That plane just vanished from record as if it never existed.

    We are rold the plane that went down in Pennsylvania was simply swallowed up by the ground without a trace after disintegrating completely except for a peice or two that supposedly showed up miles away.

    And people are supposed to believe there was a proper investigation?
     
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    The whole thing is fascinating. I happen to believe the "official" narrative though.

    But if it was a false flag operation where does KSM stand in all this? Is he a U.S agent? Otherwise wouldn't he be pleading his innocence?
     
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    Bad breathe..
     
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    Lol, yeah I'd forgotten how fascinating all these bizzarre webs of strange facts and tangled connections could be when one really starts to explore.

    I'm certainly not going to pretend that I know how KSM fits in all this but I do know that confession under torture are pretty much useless.

    Other interesting questions.....why the heck was Ayman al Zawahiri being flown to Baku for meetings with US and British intelligence almost right up to the time of 9/11?

    And why did Ali Muhamad a known double agent, get time off from training recruits at Fort Bragg for the US military to go help Osama bin Laden move to Sudan?

    Strange and fascinating alrigh......a little disturbing too!
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Rotten Ronnie was not fighting "communism" in Central America.. that was propaganda spin.
     
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    Oh, I quoted the wrong post.
     
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    Thanks, sorry for the misinterpretation on my part.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    TWA800 was pulled from the ocean and reassembled. Pan Am 103 came down on land.
     
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    Quite correct. I'd forgotten the details. Thanks.

    I have to fact check myself better obviously.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes he was.

    While liberal Democrat, Charlie Wilson (D - Tx) was fighting commies in Afghanistan, President Reagan and Lt. Col Oliver North (USMC) were focused on stopping communist expansion in Central America.

    Remember "Iran-Contra Affair" ?

     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No he wasn't because there was no communist expansion in Central America. You are confusing left wing socialism with communism.

    I am talking about the Contra's - as well Rotten Ronnie's support for death squad dictators in El Salvador and Guatemala - all three of which are a huge stain on our past. We were training these death squads in terror tactics at the "School of the America's"

    The whole "Communist" rhetoric was propaganda spin in an attempt to justify atrocity.
     
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  21. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was President Reagan, Lt. Col. Oliver North and Coors beer drinkers who prevented communist expansion in Central America.


    Adolf Hitler said the freaking same thing.

    "We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national."
    Adolf Hitler

    https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2007/sep/17/greatinterviews1
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hitler was using labels for propaganda purposes - and so are you - as was Reagan.

    The movements in Central America - were popular movements against corporate Oligopolies. Like it or dislike it - these were populist movement - aka democracy. What we did was everything we could to interfere in this democratic process - and then tried to overthrow a democratically elected Gov't (in Nicaragua) by illegally arming an insurgency in that nation.

    It was not only illegal under international law - it was illegal within US law because congress had forbidden it.

    The CIA was working with the drug cartels in the region... the cartel planes would arrive in the US full of cocaine an fly back loaded up with weapons. It was a friggen sht show.

    The death squads we were training and supporting in nations like El Salvador would drag children over barbed wire fences "till the flesh hung from their bones" in front of their parents .. and all kinds of other horrible atrocities.

    These were not "freedom fighters" - they were the nastiest of nasty evil.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    First the Democratic party back stabbed the American soldier while he was still on the battlefield of Southeast Asia.

    Then around 1973 the Democrats surrendered and no longer wanted to fight the Cold War.

    Cold War Proxy War:

    Central American crisis

    1960–1996

    Pro commie combatants:

    Supported by
    [​IMG] Soviet Union
    [​IMG] Cuba

    [​IMG] Mexico

    [​IMG] Libya

    [​IMG] Romania (before 1989)
    [​IMG] Greece
    [​IMG] Sweden
    [​IMG] Costa Rica

    [​IMG] Bulgaria

    [​IMG] China

    Anti Commie combatants:
    Supported by
    [​IMG] United States
    [​IMG] Saudi Arabia
    [​IMG] Honduras
    [​IMG] Chile
    [​IMG] Argentina
    [​IMG] Panama
    [​IMG] Israel
    [​IMG] Taiwan
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Aside from the logical fallacy - (that Russia supports some nation does not make that nation communist) - the reason you completely ignored all the points made in my post is ?
     
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