Truly Grim, Authoritarian Inauguration

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  1. ronv

    ronv Well-Known Member

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    She looks terrorized to me. How about you?
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    So people don't die from Covid.
    Those might be unjustified if we hadn't just seen an attempted conservative coup attempt earlier this month.
    "HAY GUYS I PAID ATTENTION FOR 4 MINUTES IN HISTORY CLASS ONCE. LISTEN TO EVERYTHING I LEARNT."
    I can't comment on this. I actually didn't watch the inauguration at all. I have this thing called a job. It occupies most of my time during the day.
     
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    And worse yet, here come the hordes of black and brown and red and yellow people who will one day soon create a semi-permanent democrat majority. Guess what? Nothing will get measurably different from the way things are now! Except old, white men will no longer be in charge. That is change, and if conservatives are afraid of and violently opposed to any one thing it is change of any kind.
     
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  4. Sanskrit

    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    There were no common people of any color there, as you well know, so did you have anything honest and topical to add to the thread? This is not a "changing demographics" thread, if you want to talk about that, start your own thread.
     
  5. Cybred

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    Like trump did to obama.
     
  6. ChiCowboy

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    You're confusing respect with governing. Biden was elected to do these things. I call it doing his job. Keeping his promises. That's respectful. Screaming at reporters and using juvenile nicknames is not.
     
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    Yes, just like that. And where did it get him?
     
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    People acknowledging that he kept a promise.
     
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    Give the credit where it belongs to the RIGHT WING INSURRECTIONARIES who invaded and terrorized our nations capitol. Lets hope they all get the severe sentences they deserve, including financial restitution to the nations taxpayers for the damage and destruction they inflicted as well as the computers and other materials they stole.
     
  10. Patricio Da Silva

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    We're liberal. We're coming for your wallet, your religion, your guns, and we're gonna nuke christmas and turn your kids gay.

    You're gonna love it. I really believe that.
     
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  11. Sanskrit

    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    I see, the above reminds me of something:

    Star Wars- The Imperial March (Darth Vader's Theme) - YouTube

    We're the other 84% of the land mass of the United States of all reasonable political beliefs that honor our Constitution and our Bill of Rights, all races, all ethnicities. We are the vast majority of the tax base that pays for your gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-lawyer-MSM Complex Aristocrat Corporatist Authoritarian EMPIRE. You are a few large, corrupt, debt-ridden and unsustainable cities on the brink of chaos.

    We'll be keeping our natural resources, our food production, our logistics and supply chains, our healthy and sustainable towns and cities, our clean air and water, our self-maintained infrastructure, our lawful and orderly communities, and our 400 million guns.

    And there's nothing you can do about it. Your terms are acceptable. Challenge accepted.

    You're not gonna love it. I guarantee that.
     
  12. Patricio Da Silva

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    It was sarcasm. I was stating the false beliefs of your typical republican.

    I ended it with 'I really believe that' to up end your usual 'keep believing that' answer you give, demonstrating that you really don't want to debate anything, you are more interested in trying to be clever.

    Right?

    Of course I'm right.

    Let me know when you are truly interested in a rational, sincere, and civil discussion or debate about any issue, but preferably one issue at a time.

    Thank you.
     
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  13. Sanskrit

    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    I was not being sarcastic, nor were you. Your, repetitive, dogmatic, heavily slanted partisan threads and posts here are a matter of record. Enjoy the coming dystopia that you and people like you created.
     
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    poe
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Sir,

    This is a debate forum.

    Either present an argument for debate, or rebut an existing one.

    Emotion, feelings, are not an argument. No one cares how you feel
    about Biden, etc. Let's debate specific issues, without resorting to useing
    loaded language, weasel words, pseudo-debate tricks, etc.

    I come here to debate issues, not to get into verbal pissing matches.

    If you want to debate, please do.

    Let's avoid non-arguments and incompetent rebuttals, which are delineated in the paragraph below:


    Incompetent rebuttals are arguments where the salient premise is based on:
    non arguments, a non argument isn't really debatable or they are not worthy of debate owing to any of the following types noting the fact they all have one thing in common--they lack sufficient dignity worthy of a response, they come in many different flavors, especially those which contain vacuous declarations and/or allegations (which cannot be substantiated, i.e., 'making stuff up'), rebuttals rife with weasel words ( improper use of generalities such as 'some people are saying' 'everyone knows' 'well-established fact'.) ad hominems, loaded terms & phrases,, off topic/irrelevant deflections, sentiments (words that reveal emotional attitude devoid of fact, logic and reason) red baiting ( everyone on the left are communists, commies, etc) off point arguments/deflections (off point is a sibling to off topic, where off topic is attempting to highjack the thread. It's done a lot in internet forums, and if the person to whom you directed the topic change accepts it, then you're off into a new direction, but, as such, of course, doesn't refute the original premise offered), egregious strawman arguments, egregious cynicism, off-the-charts ill-logic, 'kill the messenger" tactics, i.e., attacking the person presenting the argument rather than the argument, itself ( the only time kill the messenger is valid is for a well-established discredited source, such as Alex Jones, David Duke, etc, ), childish remarks, trivializing your opponent's argument -- cheap shot, childish or sophomoric comments/logic arising from ignorance (for example, NYTimes is a 'radical leftist rag' -- that's a remark born out of ignorance, it's also an 'kill the messenger' tactic) and then there is the classic thought-terminating cliché; these are cult-tropes, born out of groups who have a demagogue leader who is the master of implanting them in his flock. See, the demagogue doesn't like dissent, so when anyone challenges someone in his flock, he, being a master mind manipulator, will have planted a number of thought-terminating clichés into the minds of his subjects ( via repetition) so they will toss it up to the opponent in an attempt to kill the conversation ( wrongfully thinking it improves their argument ) so TTCs are simple terms catch phrases or words whose sole purpose is, to kill the conversation, AND to nix Trump fans from thinking for themselves, terms such as 'TDS' "NeverTrumper" "Leftist Loony" "fake news" (noting that the terms are not necessarily devised by the demagogue himself, they could be created by other believers, or have already been around and adopted by and they catch on with the group ) etc., pithy aphorisms assumed to be always true ( aphorisms exist because empirical observations tend to be true, but cannot be used as the salient premise to refute an argument as they are not, nor cannot be, absolute), last, but not least, and a significant debate sin, is posturing; posturing type comments, come in two basic categories, one is where you flaunt, i.e, for example, your military service, but of course if the argument can be improved by your qualifications of expertise in a field, that is okay, what I mean is something like 'I served while you were dodging the draft" whereupon your service doesn't improve your argument about whether dodging the draft was moral, or not, or flaunting your education, or authority of some kind, unless it's pertinent to the argument, and the other type of posturing are those comments which are motivated by puffing oneself up, and this is done by shaming, belittling, mocking, patronizing, 'mansplaining', flaming, where one talks down to ones opponent in order to puff oneself up.


     
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    the fences were in place due to viable threats from jokers who can't except they're guy lost the election....threats derived from the insurrectionist attack on the Capitol on January 6th. Blame your like minded compadres for the fences and soldiers. The rest of your screed is just a mixture of sour grapes and revisionism attempting a clever comparison, while ignoring the FACTS regarding January 6th.
     
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    :applause:
     
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    Reality check:

    Robert Lobell: Is Trump a fascist? The evidence is building | TheUnion.com

    Authoritarianism in 2020: Checking the checklist (princeton.edu)
     
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    I didn't vote for Biden, so I'd be interested in your specifying your assertion.
     
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    What "irrefutable proof" are you referring to?
     
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    Mmm, the censors let you ramble and insult indirectly, yet they found this post of mine just too much to keep in it's entirety. Bias much?
     
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    The other old dude he beat was not very good?
     
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    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    Mmm, a vague response. Care to elaborate the how and Why's.
    I don't think Sandy gets the sarcasm.
     
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  24. Sanskrit

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    No. I am the OP of this thread, the topic is the Authoritarian Empire Inauguration, and the basis for my opinion was clearly stated in the OP. If you'd like to make a topical post to the thread, feel free. For example, you might not agree that the Inauguration was authoritarian due to reasons XYZ.

    Your above framing attempt is inaccurate. This is an opinion and belief subforum, not a debate or argument subforum. Though debates or arguments can occur here, they are not necessary.
     
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    They were abandoned by their leader.
    And 25000 troops scared them.

    Guess they committed crimes for nothing on Jan 6, 2021
     

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