Trump’s 30 biggest broken promises.

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    That’s wrong. They sign what they agree to. Both agreed to give 83% of the tax cuts to the top 10%.
    So, your admitting it’s a failed plan and I guess your argument,is that Trump is too incompetent to realize his executive power. It’s HIS PARTY.
    Btw, he promised everyone a $4000 raise. Got yours ?
     
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    Where is the evidence. The money should be flowing into govt coffers from Mexico instead of a trillion dollar debt....
    Ha ha...now Trump is at war with republicans ?
    You guys having a pity party for Trump.......why does Trump brag about HIS tax cut ! Huh ?
    Can you sleep at night making up this stuff ?
     
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    VoxEphemeral Banned

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    If you want to continue in your fantasy that the president dictates tax cuts and promised "everyone" a $4000 raise.....have fun.

    It's a stupid belief.
     
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    The evidence is that deportations have increased (thus fewer American dollars being sent back to Mexico) and good jobs are staying in the U.S. (thus depriving Mexico of even more revenue).

    That's a huge loss of money to Mexico and a huge gain for the U.S.

    And this will just INCREASE as the days go by.

    That's why Mexico is so pissed off.......they're losing.........a lot.
     
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    Evidence isn’t your “say so. “ I Gave us a published report. I gave you mine from the DHS. Where is the proof that Mexico is paying for it. I don’t listen to Faux and friends, so I may have missed the conversation. Conversations don’t count.
     
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    Money no longer being remitted to Mexico from illegal aliens working in the United States is not going to show up on any report unless a long term study is conducted for exactly that purpose.

    Not every truth can be linked and sourced you know.
     
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    VoxEphemeral Banned

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    You gave an article from Alternet that has CLAIMS and no evidence for those claims.

    Many of the claims are obviously specious or distorted, so you'll have to do better.

    I watch CNN and I see much wailing about the deportations and I see stories on companies staying in the U.S. rather than moving to Mexico.

    Your assumption that all Trump supporters watch Fox News is cute and endearing, but wrong (and indeed, rather stupid and bigoted).
     
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    Well, take it or leave it. You think the military is populated by conservatives...wrong. You live in deceit so much, honesty alludes you. I show evidence and there is nothing you can show is incorrect about my assertions about the military. So, I either gave personal experience or I’m good at googling. Either way, you’re the fraud. Tell me anything you chicken hawks know about the military and we’ll compare notes. I suppose you were ? Wanna compare MOS s.
     
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    So you don’t watch Faux news ?
     
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    No......Fox and MSNBC are openly tainted......and too painful to watch.

    CNN is biased, of course, but it's the only thing left on cable and there are some non-political stories.

    I watch ABC evening news and it's almost as biased as CNN.

    It's amusing to watch the incessant, almost constant, pissing and moaning about Trump.
     
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    Yes it can if it’s a claim about the budget. Where’s your source then for information. Is it conversation or fact, otherwise, it’s jyst isn’t true. Every thing saud on Fox or anywhere else can be traced to a published source or not. . If it can’t take it as BS. If the published source is reliable, like the CBO, you can trust it more then conversation .
     
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    I'm retired military.

    When we had the draft the military consisted of a pretty good cross section of America.

    Lots of Liberals but still probably dominated by Conservatives (because many people still enlisted and many of these were Conservatives).

    After the draft was discontinued, Liberals became quite rare for many years.

    Today there are a few more Liberals (because ordinary people enlist just to get a job and health insurance) but the military is still a Conservative stronghold and, if anything.....it converts Liberals to Conservative thinking.
     
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    I received a high draft lottery number and would not have been called. My father and three older bros all served in the navy .....so I enlisted,( not navy) doing pretty much what I wanted having a college degree. ..
    After active duty, I spend the next 10 years in a guard unit. We were still activated once more for my second deployment. So, my contention for me is true, guard units serve and can see the same service as full time active as . I did both. In my experience, career military tend to be conservative and enlisted or draftees or guard units are all over the map. The majority....it’s hard to tell. In the medical corps it was much more liberal bent.
    I didn’t rejoin after 10 because my civilian job was too good., plus, I was training with the state police in law enforcement. It was more fun....for a while but too demanding schedule wise with my civy job so was in and out part time for ten more years as a cop. . Believe it or not......I can’t control that.
     
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    I spent 18 years in the Air National Guard after a break in service after four years in the Navy.

    I didn't encounter many Liberals, but it's hard to be sure........we were busy and politics wasn't a big topic.

    I did notice that Bush and Bill Clinton were well-regarded among the troops and Obama was far, far less popular. I knew of a couple of people reprimanded for verbally trashing Obama. Hillary would have been unpopular.
     
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    (That’s what’s good about guard units....changing the branch you’re in. )
    Same here only we didn’t talk much politics. My older and now deceased sister married a B52 driver....I luv that guy ( in his 90s) to this day.
    First time I met him, I was very careful thinking he was all conservative.. he was a southerner and the most liberal person I ever knew. Got my politics from him I think. He claims he might have had a hand killing more Vietcong then anyone in the war as a carpet bombing b52 driver. I don’t doubt it. I used to kid him....”please don’t drop your loads too early, my sister and I are pretty close too.”
     
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    How could Bill not be popular with service men. Chasing tail during leave and getting hummers while working is a serviceman’s dream job.
     
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    Well.......maybe some.

    :)
     
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    Let's hope so. We don't want the president to control the congress.

    The congress can't get anything done because of partisanship and gridlock. That is a good thing. The president does not control the congress as I said above.

    Yes, in time. We appear to moving away from the congress creating laws. In recent years we have seen law making turn to executive orders with review by the judiciary. That is a bad thing by the say. I think the judiciary is becoming more conservative. That is a good thing.

    Neither. It results from an nimical left wing judiciary.
     
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    To be fair, President Reagan never came close to controlling the U.S. House (he was about 50 seats in the minority in his first two years) and only had a 53 to 47 majority in the Senate yet he got a great deal of legislation passed his first couple of years.

    Of course things have change in the last 40 years.
     
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    Legislation like the budget is 50% admin and 25% each branch.
    That’s not changing
    Executive orders only last to the end of presidential term, 100% control but anything that cost money, goes back to the budget.



    As far as the budget process is concerned, the president has as much power as the senate and congress TOGETHER. After the agreement by both house, it means it then has to be signed by the president.

    The judiciary has been liberal ? Conservative appoints in majority since Reagan since Roe v Wade in 73. Just , , because two conservative appointments became moderate does not change that we got citizens united, no universal healthcare and no federal gun control for decades.....the only reason the federal mandate was passed, is because state’s already had health mandates protecting consumers.

    Money in politics is Republican doing..,that’s not changing . Dens are going after big bucks too but It’s a gop decision as is no immigration reform nor universal healthcare.
     
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    Reagan was trickle down, threw money at the military industrial complex, anti environment and was a racist in practice. Nothing has changed to Trump. Nothing has change except for Bush one......one of the best gop has to offer and a very good president. I voted for him twice. Bush two, ethical and humane like his dad...but woefully incompetent.



    Just a few anti minority positions from Reagan
    1. Reagan fought against civil rights for African Americans. MLK Jr. during a press …
    2. Reagan vetoed an anti-apartheid bill. Nelson Mandela. Reagan further tarnished his …
    3. Reagan supported the exploitation of Mexican-American farm workers. Cesar …
    4. Reagan actively participated in some of America's most infamous witch hunts …
     
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    All totally incorrect.
     
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    That would indeed be the point.
     
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    Mostly BS Reagan was a racist the way you are posting from the dark side of the moon. This go to option Democrats keep throwing out is such pure dee bullshit I'm surprised even they are still trying to use this.
     
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    He wasn’t trickle down ? Hmmmm
     

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