Trump abruptly withdraws from Fox debate in Iowa

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  1. Deckel

    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If he hosts an alternate event to raise money for wounded warriors as he has alluded to at the same time, it is smart because the other networks will be focusing on the alternate event. The man is no slouch when it comes to controlling the media.
     
  2. Statistikhengst

    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    Your opinion, which you are completely entitled to. You can also be of the opinion that the moon is made of cheeze, if you like.

    However, Megyn Kelly was actually very professional. Hard, but professional.

    If Trump cannot survive her scrutiny, then he has no chance against someone like Vladimir Putin.

    Face it, Trump is a total (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) when it come to criticism. His massive ego (a very unchristian thing, if I may add) will not allow for it.

    Oh, and the very fact that you are accusing other people of making "fools" of themselves says alot about YOUR desperation and very little about their opinions.

    Thanks, and have a great day.

    Better luck to you next time!
     
  3. Dale Cooper

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    So now it's me and my desperation?

    And you had to throw in the anti-Christian bit? What's that about?

    Do you have the vaguest idea how silly you sound?

    (Guess not.)

    Carry on...
     
  4. Statistikhengst

    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    Short of being caught with a live underaged girl (or boy) in his bed, I don't think Trump can damage himself with "the base" at all. They are lapping up everything he says.

    But you don't win a GE with just "the base". And reports out of the SW of our great Union are that Latinos, in response to Trump's malarky, are registering in record numbers. I am referring to legal US citizens of Latino descent or heritage, if you may. Indeed, 2016 may be the year when the sleeping bear that it is the Latino vote will wake up - and eat Donald Trump alive.

    So, Donald, uhm, Thanks!!!

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    Sure, buddy.

    Calling other people "fools" while defending Trump's newest display of malarky can only be accurately described as desperation.

    Carry on.

    You see, I'm not in this to get into a pissing-match with anyone. I prefer adult debate. Beside, I can (*)(*)(*)(*) farther than you, anyway!! :D :D :D

    /humor
     
  5. 17smitl

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    I believe this move by Donald makes him look weaker which is clearly not what he has been doing his entire campaign. If he is president he will have to deal with so many nefarious people so backing down from a worker at fox news is not a good look on his campaign trail.
     
  6. Sane Centrist

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    I wouldn't be surprised either but wouldn't you love to be the fly on the wall of thousands of homes across the country to see the faces of the most devout just to see their heads explode as he says the words.

    There isn't enough money in circulation to buy that type of entertainment...........:roflol:
     
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    It helps when his foolish opponents dismiss him as a "stupid clown". ;-)
     
  8. perotista

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    I heard that on the news this morning also. I think the exact figures the news station reported was 57-43 against ducking the debate. I do not think what the media says or even Cruz will have much influence on those who support Trump already. It may however make people who support other candidates to shy away from him once their candidate drops out. Time will tell.
     
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    Cruz took a double hit yesterday. First Sheriff Joe joins Trump over immigration and then Jerry Falwell Jr and the Evangelicals endorsed Trump.

    Cruz kicked off his Campaign speaking at Falwell's Liberty University.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/elections-campaigns/441928-sheriff-joe-arpaio-endorses-trump.html
     
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    Looking inside the polls on RCP Trump vs. Hillary the average black vote is going to Hillary 90-5 and Hispanics to Hillary 80-15. round figures averaging them in my head. Figuring Romney received only 27% of the Hispanic vote, dropping that figure down to 15 will really hurt Trump especially in southwest. That puts Arizona into play for Hillary. California and New Mexico would go for her regardless of who the GOP nominates.

    Yet I hear on this site from Trump supporters that he is winning the black and Hispanic votes. I wonder where they are getting that stuff.
     
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    If you're talking about the race for the far right wing vote, that's true.

    No legitimate Presidential candidate would allow themselves to be seen even near someone like Joe Arapio.
     
  12. MMC

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    Demos lost the House in NM and Susanna Martinez is the Governor. Hillary has no real chance in Arizona. Even if McCain were to lose his seat.
     
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    Thanks for that.. Made my day!
     
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    Like I said, I am not sure how much any endorsement is worth. Of course it is better to have them than not. I do think the Iowa Governor Branstadt telling Iowa Republicans not to vote for Cruz was worth much more than any other endorsement to include Palin's.

    So Trump may very well be the GOP nominee. But Trump has done his darnest to make supporters of other candidates angry at him. Most will show up and vote for him in the general, but how many will not. So far Clinton and Sanders has been careful not to step on each others toes. So you may be looking at a united Democratic Party vs. a partially divided GOP party where a certain amount of their base vote stays home.

    The fact the Republicans have a smaller base vote than the Democrats, making sure every single one of that base gets out and votes in November is a must.
     
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    "Let's see how much money Fox makes without me in the debate". That, as always, is his bottom line-'me and my money'. Petulance is not an attractive quality.
     
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    I don't think this hurts him at all. I won't be voting for either popular candidate, but Trump has certainly kept me entertained for the last 6 months. I would love to see a Bernie vs Trump run this year just as a simple Giant FU to both establishments. I don't even care who wins. That in itself is Grande!
     
  17. Bluesguy

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    That might be fun for a day but a little shortsighted don't you think?
     
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    I have my reasons... Do you really think we could send a stronger message to the powers that be?
     
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    Anyone who claims a person who was endorsed by Bob Dole and Trent Lott is "anti establishment" doesn't seem to understand what the term means.
     
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    You mean like Reagan did in 1980? :roflol:

    Those who fail to learn the lessons of history are bound to become Idiocrats.
     
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    Again, Trump looks more and more like Berlusconi. He even copies the communication strategy of our former President.

    Anyway note that, to avoid the confrontation near the primary election vote when you've got a certain advantage is a Machiavellian tactic in the brief term.

    It's known [at level of political communication] that more is near the vote and more the TV debates and confrontations make differences less evident [the elector feels the vote coming, while a month before the elector tends to take side with less "anxiety": the game is coming to an end, things become serious ... it's time to decide for real]. So to avoid the last debate before a vote should [theoretically] allow the competitor who is ahead to keep the advantage on the "chasers".
     
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    Exactly, and after 7 years of that kind of leadership, we need something different.
     
  23. Lil Mike

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    Well I did get an answer from Scott Adams. He's been right since July so who knows?

    http://blog.dilbert.com/post/138125409321/trump-fox-news-and-megyn-kelly-explained-master
     
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    The difference between Trump and every other candidate besides his media savvy is that he is not a political insider being handled by a political insider. If a republican wants to run neck in neck with them, they are going to need a Hollywood-trained media team and not a beltway-trained spokesperson.
     
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    T-Rump as the GOP candidate is a distinct possibility given your math. Thank you for laying it out for everyone.
     

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