Trump Administration Asks States To Bury Unemployment Claim Figures

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    No, he's decided be Bozo the Clown, but he's always done that

    NEW TRUMP ADMINISTRATION GUIDELINES FOR REPORTING UNEMPLOYMENT

    Approved words

    Most approved: Perfect

    Next most approved: Winning

    Approved: Great

    Not recommended: Adequate, acceptable,

    Use of defeatist terms like Decline, Falloff, Depression will result in arrest by the Newly established Office of War on the Wuhan Virus Defeatist Awareness, a branch of your ICE
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Restricting freedom of assembly for millions of Americans, not a problem. Restricting unemployment data, holy f'ing crisis. I will never understand the liberal mind...
     
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    Masks: He lied about how many would be available with8n the next week.
    Tests: He lied when he claimed last week that tests were available to any who wanted them.
    Hospital ships: He lied when he told us that the east coast ship would be in place "by next Thursday."

    Trump has no credibility with most of us. Only his core supporters still believe everything he says. Sorry, but that is a fact ... most of us dismiss his blathering and wait to hear what the actual experts say. There are still a few good ones that he hasn't fired yet.
     
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    Ericb760 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then show me where I stated I wanted this crisis to hurt Trump.

    Put your money where your mouth is or shut your pie hole and quit accusing me of positions I have not taken.
     
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    Ericb760 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One of these things is not like the other...
     
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    There are plenty of low life degenerates that would like to spin everything politically. They are the true pieces of crap in out nation. This is a Force Majeure event. Trying to place blame is ridiculous and for depraved people.
     
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  7. stone6

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    Nor do I understand your comparison? Restrictions on "freedom of assembly" is to reduce the spread of a virus for which we have no cure. Restrictions on unemployment data would be to create a false picture of the impact of the virus on the economy. Why would YOU be against the former, but in favor of the latter?
     
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    Well said, and EXACTLY.

    1) Trump's Election was facilitated by the votes of 27% of Eligible Voters.

    2) In other words, almost 3/4 of America's Eligible Voters Voted for Someone Else (or didn't vote).

    3) Trump (due to his many indiscretions) has (most likely) lost support since then.

    4) Trump is lucky if he even retains the support of 1/4 of America.

    ^Just because the above group is Disproportionately Represented Online...
    ...does not change the FACT...
    ...that only a "Hard-Core Base" (of about 1/4 of America) still supports Trump.


    It is what it is.:smh:
     
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  9. struth

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    It hasn’t been a week

    obviously he met folks that needed them, or having symptoms

    I heard him say the ships would be coming available in a week or so

    actually the majorly off Americans believe he is handling this well according to the latest poll. So when you say most of us are you just talking about the low informed dems?
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Indeed, one is a Constitutionally protected right. The other is data that serves little purpose beyond curiosity at this moment. Great priorities you folks have...
     
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    So if they released the data only to those who had an official use for it there would be no problem?
     
  12. stone6

    stone6 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That would be the American public. I believe it's the Bureau of Labor Statistics, which is a US Government agency, within the Department of Labor. Are you suggesting they shouldn't release negative information, but only that which promotes the administration's performance?
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm suggesting that if we accept restrictions on our Constitutional rights whining and crying about restrictions rings hollow, unless there is some agenda at play...
     
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    Lying is never a good idea. Didn't your mom teach you that?
     
  15. stone6

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    The "agenda at play" would be to hide a quickly growing unemployment rate, regarding prohibitions on publishing the unemployment rate. On crowd restrictions, "the agenda at play" would be to prevent the person-to-person spread of a virus for which there is no known cure. Constitutional provisions may be suspended in times of emergency, particularly for the benefit of the entire society.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My mom also withheld the fact Santa Claus wasn't real when I was six. What's you point?
     
  17. Jiminy

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    Exhibit A
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    Did the fact businesses have been ordered closed and people told not to go to work wasn't indication enough to think we might have employment issues? Wow...
     
  19. ronv

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    That's a fib. :)
    Different.
     
  20. stone6

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    Yes...but such does not justify withholding public information regarding the unemployment rate. Democratic capitalism depends on accurate economic data. Deprived of such, it quickly degenerates into fascism.
     
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    Touche !!!!!

    Pointing out the obvious again !!!!
     
  22. Dispondent

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    The suspension of our rights is an even greater threat to our capitalist system. There is no logical reason that suspension of that data is somehow a greater threat. It becomes more obvious as to the intent of why some people seem so concerned. Just one more shot to take at Trump. Disgraceful behavior in the midst of a national crisis...
     
  23. Bluesguy

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    It's an ABC poll if you want more details follow the link or here since you want me to hold you hand.

    https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/abc-news-coronavirus-poll

    You've yet to post anything to refute it. :popcorn:
     
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    Perhaps you need to research the history of "political theory." You have no "rights" outside of the social contract. As an individual, you may think that you do, which is your prerogative. But your "rights" depend upon the rest of us recognizing them. The suspension (or limitation) of your right to freely assemble, in order to prevent the spread of a deadly virus, is the suspension of your individual right for the benefit of the whole. Incidentally, the NYSE has decided to suspend "floor trading." Trading may continue, from a distance, electronically...similar to your right to free speech may continue via this medium.
     
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    Why can’t you answer a simple question?
    Not confident with the number of persons polled or are you having issues finding it?
     

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