Trump administration launches global effort to end criminalization of homosexuality

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  1. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So I take it you aren't a fan of anal sex.

    And since homosexuality can be found throughout the animal world, there is an argument to be made that it is an entirely natural state, just a different one than you or I experience.
     
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    Bogus statement. I got cows, and when they come into heat they try to mount other cows. Does that mean they’re gonna start buying birkenstalks, and get employment at Home Depot? No of course not, just means that they’re dumb animals who have the natural urge to breed.
     
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    Homosexuality is an aberration. At best, you can say it's "normal" for 2% or 3% of the population. But many would argue that it's the other 97% or 98% that are "normal".
     
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    You should do some research on bonobos and chimps. Homosexual behavior can be found in the animal kingdom that goes beyond simple unthinking breeding behavior. Not so much on the farm, although I've heard of some crazy sheep stories.....
     
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    Normal and natural are two distinctly different things.

    For instance its normal for a guy to get sexually aroused watching two women get it on, but according to you its not natural.

    I agree its an aberration in the same way that S&M bondage freaks are.
     
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    Scientists still haven’t figured out why there’s homosexual behavior in humans, so comparing human homosexuality, to homosexual acts in the animal kingdom doesn’t jive.
    There’s never been any study suggesting that animals stay homosexual, and pass up the opportunity to breed with the opposite sex. There’s perfectly reasonable exploitations of why animals conduct these sexual acts. In the case of bonobos, scientists think it’s sex is used for group bonding. For other species, it’s suggested that these acts are do to a lack of mates.
     
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    Democrats lie when they believe it suits them.
    In other news - water: wet!
     
  8. Jonsa

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    And many homosexuals are married and have kids. Go figger. Social bonding or control? They use sex as an intervention as well as a reward. And the comparisons are relevant in the broader context. Naturally human sapience and concomitant psychology overlays our evolutionary biological behaviors.
     
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    Virtually everyone believes that gay sex shouldn't be criminalized, so what Trump is doing isn't special or impressive. What will impress me is if Trump comes out in favor of gay marriage even when his party opposes it.
     
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    4.5% of of the general population self identify as homosexual
    8% of millennials self identify as homosexual according to Gallup [1] — even this is a poor (low) estimate as many people engage in homosexual relations but do not self identify themselves as such.

    While homosexuality is not the norm it is natural (occouring in nature). There are several species that have some members that are exclusively homosexual, some that have gone as far as to adopt abandoned babies [2].
     
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    People say trumpkinism is just a political belief but it's a mental illness. These sickos need help. Maybe there's a pill.
     
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    Sure, by some definition of the term that excludes any understanding of human nature.
    So you count Moses as a murderer?
    You're under the impression, perhaps, that during the Dark Ages when Jefferson proposed liberalizing the Virginia sodomy law by substituting castration for hanging, government agents were stationed next to bedroom windows?
    Because...?
    They're both perversions, regardless of anybody's feelings. What's yer point?
     
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    I’d like to see the stats on how many homosexuals are married, and are having kids. And, I think you have it backwards about the human psychological condition trumping our biological behavior. The only thing that separates us from our fellow animals, is than our distant ancestors ate processed meat. We still have the drive to reproduce, as we still compete for resources to survive.
     
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    Simple. Why should you be able to impose your religious values on me? I do not wish to impose my religious beliefs on you.
     
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    A reporter asked DirtyDonald about this topic today and DD had no clue as to what the reporter was talking about.Sounds like someone perpetrated a scam on this one.
     
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    Does the sixth commandment count as a religious value?
     
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    The only thing that separates us from the other animals is our sapience. It was our sapience that enabled our ancestors to use fire in the first place and enables us to mitigate our behavior in pursuit of those most basic instincts. Unique within the terrestrial animal kingdom, perhaps explaining our outrageous human conceit.
     
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    I disagree, but well said none the less.
     
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    That's quite progressive of him.
     
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    Dude, a gay man was hanged to death in Iran this week. Virtually all of the middle east treats homosexuality as a crime punishable by death.
     
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    It’s still an aberration. It’s not the norm.
     
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    Not necessarily. The concept of morality is not mutually exclusive. Society has the right to define what is moral and acceptable outside of pure religious beliefs. Simply because their is overlap doesnt give you the right to impose other religious morality carteblac against others.

    We have defined murder as socially unacceptable. Just because religions have said the same doesnt mean you get to apply all religious doctrine to society. Sorry.
     
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    Conservative? What is it? Is it adherence to the letter of the law, or following a spirit, where the spirit is there is liberty? https://biblehub.com/2_corinthians/3-17.htm
     
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    I literally said that in my post. So are redheads and black people... (and people that claim to be Republican)

    I don’t know why y’all keep repeating it over and over again as if that gives some credibility to the stance the republicans have taken on the issue.
     
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    Good, we agree.

    I don’t even know why I’m discussing it. There is nothing more boring on the planet than sexual preferences.
     

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