Trump admits underfunding USPS to stop or reduce MAIL IN VOTING.

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  1. 61falcon

    61falcon Well-Known Member

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    After spending months claiming falsely that mail in voting was rigged, the Dirty Donald campaign is now flooding online sites with ads requesting his supporters to request mail in ballots.
     
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    Since when was Trump against mail in ballots for those who want to vote by mail?
     
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    Since he began his attack on the USPS claiming MAIL IN voting was rigged and removing postal sorting machines to slow down the mail. He replaced all members of the board and installed as postmaster general a person who had heavily contributed to his campaign in June.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You're right!

    You? Opinions based on facts?

    Silly me!
     
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    No, he said that it can lead to voter fraud, which is a FACT! Voter fraud from mail-in voting has happened before, on an obviously MUCH smaller scale than a Presidential election, so do you seriously think there is ZERO risk if hundreds of millions of ballots are distributed?

    Are you promoting a conspiracy theory?
     
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    How can ANYONE'S opinion of someone's behaviour be based in FACT? It's OPINION! Use a dictionary to understand the difference! :roflol:
     
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    Yes and their are online instances of people being registered to vote in multiple states and do it in person driving from one state to another. the way they can get away with it is each state maintains it's own registration rolls and some people own property in more than one state. For example Dirty Donald Trump, who knows maybe he has been doing it???
     
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    Again, he said that it can lead to voter fraud, which is a FACT! Voter fraud from mail-in voting has happened before, on an obviously MUCH smaller scale than a Presidential election, so do you seriously think there is ZERO risk if hundreds of millions of ballots are distributed?
     
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    Are you promoting a conspiracy theory? That the USPS is conspiring with Trump to get him re-elected? :roflol:
     
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    Yes I am promoting that theory. Dirty Donald has appointed ALL SIX of the USPS board and its Postmaster General. The board used to be 9 members split 5-4 among the two parties, not the one sided board that he has now.
     
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    The current board is made up with Dems and Republicans.

    THe OP is also fake news, the President doesn't fund the Postal Service

    With that said, Trump did approve a 10 billion dollar loan for them in May...they haven't used that money yet.
     
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    Dirty Donald has appointed ALL SIX of the board members there are no Democrats on it.
     
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    He's appointed Dems, when spots are open they have to be filled,....and it's filled with both dems and republicans
    Ron Bloom and Donald Moak are both dem
     
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    THEY are all TRUMP Appointees because the Senate under McConnell would not confirm ANY of Obamas appointees!! Moak may be a Democrat but he has very close ties to the White House occupant.
     
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    Trump doesn't need to conspire with the USPS.
     
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    Are you promoting a conspiracy theory?
     
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    I just did a quick search of your posts which include "conspiracy." You don't seem to have a problem with conspiracy theories unless they are on right! :roflol:
     
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    Sorry, is the below NOT what you have claimed?

    1. Trump has thwarted Congressional oversight, and retaliated against whistleblowers.

    2. Trump's threats to shut down Twitter was attacking free speech.

    3. Trump has attacked the press, "mainly by lying, by refusing to provide information about what is happening in the government,
    by selectively choosing which media outlet the President* and his officials do interviews with."
     
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    Looks like you're repeating old posts that have already been discussed.
     
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    The Trump Campaign Is Suing Over Mail-In Voting — And Promoting It To Supporters
    President Donald Trump and the Republican Party want their supporters to vote by mail, but they have an odd way of showing it.

    In several states across the country, Trump and his campaign are spending to promote mail-in voting at the same time they’re filing lawsuits to make it harder to do so and putting out statements baselessly smearing vote by mail as prone to widespread fraud.

    In Pennsylvania, the Trump campaign has challenged steps by election officials to make mail-in voting easier, such as using drop boxes. But a website for the state’s Republican Party skips over the legal scuffle and gets to the point.
    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...mail-in-voting-and-promoting-it-to-supporters

    The Trump campaign has legal battles in 5 states to limit mail-in voting expansions

    "As the November election nears closer, President Donald Trump has for months railed against states' attempts to expand mail-in-voting to alleviate fears associated with in-person voting during the coronavirus pandemic.

    Trump and his allies, without evidence, have for months claimed that an expansion of mail-in voting via the postal service will lead to widespread voter fraud.

    Since August, the Trump campaign has taken legal action against several states, including New Jersey, Nevada, Iowa, and Montana, over their plans to more easily allow voters to cast their ballot by mail. Last week, the president's campaign also took action against a group of six members of the Navajo Nation in Arizona, who are suing the state to extend the deadline to receive and count mail-in ballots."
    https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-is-involved-in-litigation-about-voting-2020-9
     
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    Oh, you mean you actually supported those claims? I don't think so! :roflol:
     
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    What the hell happened to the below? :roflol:
     
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    Storm came through on Tuesday. Our local post office put up signs that they could not process any transactions because their computer systems were down as a result of the storm. Their computer systems have been down for over 48 hours. The next closest USPS is 20 minutes away.

    I am not chalking this up to a conspiracy but it did make me pause and think about this discussion. I live in a town of less than 10K people and a good chunk rely on mail-in voting. I'm hoping this is a one-time incident and things will run smoothly in November.
     
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    Isn't that odd...huh?
     
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    USPS union now suing the postmaster general deJoy for changing rules established in their contract for postal law enforcement to conduct postal law violations anywhere in the country, he wants to restrict their investigations to just U.S.Postal facilities. No investigations beyond post offices and sorting facilities severely reducing their ability to resolve fraud cases and lawlessness.
     

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