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Trump and Shumer came close to a deal. Then it fell apart.

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by bx4, Jan 20, 2018.

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  1. 22catch

    22catch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sir I support DACA, Schumer is selling everyone snake oil! Disingenuous is being too kind. He's lying about his putting the wall on the table.

    I don't care what anti immigrant posters or anti DACA think. I don' care what anti wall people think. I want them both. Schumer is all over every media platform lying about his offer. For some insane reason.
     
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    22catch, Jan 21, 2018
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  2. Hoosier8

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    Word is Chuck Schumer, whose surname (per ancestry.com) is "a nickname from Middle Low German ´good-for-nothing,´ ´vagabond,´" just blinked because #SchumerShutdown is trending.
     
    Hoosier8, Jan 21, 2018
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    80% of Americans want DACA. Lol
     
    rahl, Jan 21, 2018
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Word is Chuck Schumer, whose surname (per ancestry.com) is "a nickname from Middle Low German ´good-for-nothing,´ ´vagabond,´" just blinked because #SchumerShutdown is trending.
     
    Hoosier8, Jan 21, 2018
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    Trump said that it was the failure of the President to bring Congress together when the government has to shut down. Should we not believe him?
     
    Daniel Light, Jan 21, 2018
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    Not really. I think you are right.
     
    Hoosier8, Jan 21, 2018
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    Schumer appears to be caving on the wall

    But he does not want to end chain immigration and go to a merit based system instead

    Amnesty for DACA could result in 20 or 30 million new immigrants if schumer gets his way
     
    Mac-7, Jan 21, 2018
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  8. Hoosier8

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    The whole point of this stunt. He has this weekend to make the democrat media complex circuit to try and pin it on republicans but watching the news it is apparent that he is holding a budget bill hostage for illegals and #SchumerShutdown is trending.
     
    Hoosier8, Jan 21, 2018
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    I sure hope it works out that way

    Trump is setting the example for the spineless republican swamp rats in congress to follow

    Lets hope they do
     
    Mac-7, Jan 21, 2018
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    I believe this to be true everyone from the left up to moderate conservatives like me approve of DACA. I'm tired of it being argued.

    The point is Schumer hijacked the gdamn bill and is all over the place lying about him offering anything not already allocated. He' tthe minority lead trying to get DACA for nothing.
     
    22catch, Jan 21, 2018
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    Link please? And don't go with your obvious response of "it's obvious"...

    I think the majority of D's, plus 4 R's, voted their conscience on continuing to pay for government 3 weeks at a time..
     
    Egoboy, Jan 21, 2018
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    Schumer wants amnesty without giving anything in return

    What is often forgotten is thst DACAs never should have been here in the first place

    And if we dont do what trump wants millions of new poterntial DACAs will follow them across the border

    Im willing to compromise on DACA if we fix the underlying problem at the same time
     
    Mac-7, Jan 21, 2018
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    Schumer is the minority party leader. He could do exactly nothing to stop a republican budget bill. This is 100% on republicans.
     
    rahl, Jan 21, 2018
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    Whoah where are you getting 20 or 30 million new immigrants? Chain migration is a stupid boogie man racists tell their children as bedtime stories.

    Cmon guys.. In order to request family members get green cards you have to be a citizen. Even after a path to citizenship is mapped it takes years. I am not an advocate of chain migration at all. We have 11 million people that we need to get on pathways to citizenship and that does not include their families brothers cousins uncle.

    So when if ever new immigration law is passed we restrict chain migration to immediate family only. IE wife, husband, sons, daughters. Don' lIke it? Leave America and move back.
     
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    Chain immigration allows naturalized citizens to sponsor as many immigrants as they want

    3 or 4 million DACAs could easily sponsor 20 or 30 million family members from mexico over time

    And those new immigrants could continue the scain migration scam after they become naturalized

    I am thinking of the future not just tomorrow
     
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    I think there are more than 11 million here already

    And even if most of them get to stay there is no reason why an illegal alien should EVER be made a citizen
     
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    Totally agree but thats under current immigration law. That needs to be restricted to immediate family unit only. So we approve DACA, then revamp naturalization process and nip chain migration.

    It's doable
     
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    It was irrelevant as the post you just quoted is filled with facts and only facts.
     
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    But democrats don’t want that.
     
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    The breakdown of both houses is facted. Its ok the Dems are going to lose big over the shutdown.
     
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    Thats what trump is holding out for

    He wants the wall, an end to chain immigration and no more lottery visas

    Schumer only want amnesty with no strings attached

    If schumer gets that he will never do the rest
     
    Mac-7, Jan 21, 2018
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    I disagree, this shutdown is going to be a noose around RUssia's puppet, tRUmp's neck. He put DACA into play for no reason.
     
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    Please explain how...
     
    Egoboy, Jan 21, 2018
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    LOL, #schumershutdown is trending above #releasethememo and trending 10 times more than #trumpshutdown.

    Schumer is nervous.
     
    Hoosier8, Jan 21, 2018
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