Trump: Burn the flag, go to jail

Slow down. When you wrote this, did you realize that your candidate Hillary Clinton, as a senator, in 2005 sponsored the Flag Protection Act which would have banned "destroying or damaging a US flag with the primary purpose and intent to incite or produce imminent violence or a breach of the peace" punishable by a year in prison? 36 Democrat senators voted for it, but it did not pass. The NYT rebuked her for it.
So Hillary wanted the same thing as Trump.

 

Good thing I did not vote for her.

 

I seriously doubt you voted at all.

 

Well, Hillary and Trump are friends.

In fact, less than a decade ago your hero was singing praises for Clinton, going as far as to say she'd make a good president. Fast forward to 2016, and he's pandering to low information GOP voters with garbage rhetoric such as "Lock her up!", only to then now back off that "promise" as well.


So the fact that they both share many similar opinions wouldn't surprise me at all. And now that the election is over, and Trump no longer has to placate the rubes for votes, he can go back to liking her again. Funny how things work out, eh?

 

Honest politician? I thought the orange messiah was NOT politician, but in fact an "outsider" who's going to "drain the swamp"?

 

Well you took that down a pretty extreme path, heh.

I just want to see some laws protecting people and property from the increasingly violent and disruptive riot culture that is brewing.

What if you were a shop-keep on a city block running a business that was sustaining your family, a mob comes along and burns it down because their guy didn't win an election - now what do you do?

What if you were a parent riding in an ambulance with your mortally injured child trying hospital where seconds can mean the difference between life and death, a mob blocks your path because a criminal was shot committing a crime - now what do you do?

These aren't just hypotheticals, these are situations people are facing right now.

Are they not entitled to the protection of laws? ...are you not?

 

Do you know what Purchasing Power Parity is?

 

Yeah but go ahead and try to defend modern day slavery in China so you don't feel bad about your purchase.

 

Okay, not even sure where to begin here. I'll start with this:

1) I'm objecting to Trump's statements and his ideology. This is only one of many statements he has made showing that he is openly hostile to free speech. And yes, at many points in the man's past, that hostility has resulted in actions, not just words, suing people left and right, sometimes even knowing that he will lose, just to punish them for saying things he didn't like. Yes, that worries me. In the very least his anti free-speech ideology deserves the harsh criticism of anyone who claims to hold to libertarian or classical liberal values. And that's all I'm doing. For the life of me, I don't understand why you feel the need to defend a man with such totalitarian aspirations.

2) Are you seriously going to sit here and pretend that Congress even reads everything it passes? Really?

3) Are you seriously going to sit here and pretend that, when scared enough, Congress hasn't already shown a willingness to curb our constitutional rights? The Patriot Act alone is proof enough that such a notion is laughable.

4) Recent presidents have shown a willingness to circumvent Congress through executive orders.

So no, I'm not as optimistic. We have a president elect who is openly hostile to the first amendment.

So the action that Trump has proposed would be "fascist" if he actually carried through with it? And you don't see how that would mean that the ideology itself is fascist? Yes, I find comfort in the fact that you would do the right thing if Trump's ideology resulted in him actually carrying through on the awful things that he has suggested. What troubles me is that when people raise a flag that he is suggesting such a thing, your priority and your first reaction is to protect your candidate and not your ideology, even going so far as to accuse people of making stuff up just for relating exactly what the man has said.

O . . . k . . .?

 

Burn the flag, go to jail.

Burn the Cross, get applauded by the far right ...

 

And I believe Trump was doing just that, poking the leftist doughboys. He knows the SCOTUS decisions.

 

Even if there's nothing to question about the Holocaust, that doesn't mean people should be prevented from doing so. Apparently i value freedom more than you do, i believe those people that want to challenge Holocaust, or democracy should not be forbidden to do so, but instead debated, argued with, its through debate and exchange of ideas that freedom flourishes, not censorship.

 

And Hillary a scant few years ago wanted to imprison people for burning the flag. What does she say now?

 

They were taken down, weren't they? You weren't around for the gazillion replies of faux outrage by Liberals?

 

She flip-flopped like the chameleon she is? Can she ever stick to her beliefs or does she not HAVE any?

 

Like Trump?

Who said just last year flag burning was a valid form of expression?

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"Can she ever stick to her beliefs or does she not HAVE any?"

So rich. Coming from a guy who supports a man who changes positions like most people change their socks.

 

She was a senator who introducec a bill to make flag burning a crime punishable by 1 year in prison, so she must have felt very strongly about it. Meanwhile, Trump was an ordinary citizen, not a politician,who had no power to change anything. He just voiced an opinion. No comparison....Hillary lies like a dirty rug. She is a chameleon who changes according to whom she is speaking. Whatever benefits her. Hills is in the past. Let her be a grandma.

 

I have an other opinion, because EVERYTHING has its limits and when the freedom of one is threating another one or even only offends another one, then freedom has to be restricted., because there is no freedom of speech which allows to do so!

Is it OK for you that ... let me say ... 100 people are demonstrating with ISIS flags in Times Square for this scum and tell that it is their constitutional right to do so, because freedom?
if you say no, because banned terrorists, then it is lame to ask why no Nazis are allowed to do so in Germany!

 

Yes people should be allowed to fly ISIS flags in Times Square. And im very sorry but your feelings, or how other people feel should have no say on wether people should express their opinions or not.

 

As told ... if it supports criminals or insults / offends others, freedom of speech has his limit and in my opinion this is correct.

 

I disagree with Trump on this one. While I strongly dislike flag burners, to do so is protected under the constitution.