Trump Calls Allies to Demand Gen. Mark Milley Be ‘Arrested’ for ‘Treason’

Yeah, Trump is a narcissist, I agree. But no one described him in such terms “I mean in a way Obama's standing above the country, above above the world, he's sort of God.” Evan Thomas

 

Because if the reporting is true he violated the Constitution, US Code and the UCMJ with his treasonous acts all over phony hyperbole the Dems and the Leftist MSM had created about Trump was going to launch nuclear weapons so they could drum up their audiences?

 

So if the CJCS in his mind thinks the President is insane he should illegally take control of the military and tell our foreign enemies he is in charge?

If you found out tomorrow that Milley had been calling China and Putin and Iran that if there was going to be a military strike against them he would give them a warning first and then gathered military officers into a room and tells them that they should ignore a presidential order until he gives them the OK to carry it out even though he has NO authority to do so, has NO command and control authority all because he believed Biden no longer had the mental capacity to do his job you'd be OK with that?

 

Not necessarily but there should be safeguards. Let us say that a president comes under extreme stress and suffers sleep deprivation.- that alone can cause delirium. That button should not be in the hands of just one person

 

When the president is out of office soon and they’ve done nothing to warrant an attack?? Yah, I’m against starting wars to seize power. Aren’t you?

 

Pretty sure I just answered. I like the idea of not allowing a mentally ill lame duck to start a war in order to seize power

 

No. I don't want that around any president. Milley's job is to advise the president on military matters, not to undermine the president's authority. What Milley calls normal procedure seems more like going rogue to me. I don't think it is appropriate for a high ranking general to maintain communication with a counterpart in a country inimical to the U.S. And it certainly doesn't seem appropriate to promise a heads up in the event of an attack. That would be bad strategic practice and a serious breach of national security.

 

I appreciate your thoughts on the matter. In particular, your views about Milley being in contact with China. But I still maintain that I feel more comfortable knowing there was a person in place in the event things went crazy. In reading all the comments about Biden's mental capacity, I get the impression that Reps here think that he has little to no brain capacity. So, if during one of his 'moments', he decided to nuke China - or another country - what would stop him? What if he were power hungry instead of suffering from dementia? What if he had an irrational temper? I appreciate that no one on the right side of the aisle was concerned about Trump's stability, but plenty of us were. And it wasn't because of partisan bickering - we truly believe he was a malignant narcissist. And we were always concerned that he would act irrationally. In that event, I want someone in the room who could put the brakes on something that shouldn't happen.

 

Yet, this rule didn't apply

* When he appointed DeJoy to slow down the mail system by removing mailboxes, sorting machines and overtime.
* Trump berated and tried to bully Pence into not certifying the election counts,
* had some of his supporters storm the Capitol (to seek out Pence),
* tried to bully the GA Secretary of State to "find X votes",
* Fired Barr for saying there was no widespread election fraud,
* Tried to coerce the DOJ to say there was "widespread election fraud".

It's only stomping the Constitution when it's anybody besides Orange Jesus. Wow.

 

Let me provide a "what if." Let's say China had launched an ICBM at the U.S, and the president, appropriately, responded in kind. In the meantime a general decided that the president shouldn't be allowed to launch and undermined the order or had a way to reverse it. That is just as possible as a president going rogue and far more likely.

Trump was a narcissist. He was a braggart. He was a finger pointer. He had all kinds of personality faults. But he was not a war monger. In fact he was the opposite. So your fear of his personality had no reason to fear his decision making which was basically correct. No, starting a war is the purview of the congress or, in the event of an emergency, the president. It doesn't fit the job description of the JCS chief in any way. We don't know the details behind Milley's actions and he may have had permission to do what he did. I don't know. Neither do you. But the responsibilities are clear.

 

Trump is for sale to the highest bidder. Of course he has sold secrets. Just because the mayhem that will cause hasn't happened yet doesn't mean it won't. And, that's exactly what this country deserves for electing an immoral, dishonest, pathological lying con artist.

 

@Arkanis posted more details somewhere. Milley's quotes basically stated to his subordinates they were to follow proper procedure and notifying him was part of those procedures. Thus far, it appears that he didn't tell anybody to go around the President or ONLY come to him.

He said "Follow the procedures.".

 

No, he appoined DeJoy because he was well known expert in logistics from the trucking industry. The order to remove sorting machines etc. was made by his predecessor.

Yes he did. Not good.

Opinion not supported by evidence. In fact he asked the protesters not to break any laws. But, of course, they did anyway.

Bully is the wrong word but he did ask. Also not good.

More opinion not supported by evidence including your quoted phrase. I realize you no longer respond to my posts and that is fine. I'm not communicating to you with this post but rather to readers of forum in general.

 

There is my hyperbole of the week award winner.

 

I know that sanity sometimes is in the eye of the beholder but Trump had so many Kangaroos loose in his top paddock that groups of psychiatrists spent four years warning us about him.

And yes if Biden shows signs of serious cognitive decline I do expect you to safeguard the planet. Schlesinger took similar action to Milley when Nixon started drinking heavily and talking to paintings.

Trump is a known Narcissist it is not unusual for narcissists to behave erratically when they think things have gone sideways. If Mitch had not been so laser focussed on excusing the inexcusable then the 25fh Amendment could have been invoked.

As a citizen of this planet I honestly think there should be safeguards

 

Or just even someone drunk or drugged or sleep deprived.

 

Again - I respect your view - I just disagree with it. Your 'what if' doesn't fit into the scenario we are discussing. That would be retaliatory action. The concerns in this case were about a proactive attack. Was it really a concern? I don't know. I highly doubt it. But I wasn't around the man when he was 'losing it' by most accounts. I'm happy to know that there are military professionals at the ready in the event a POTUS 'losing it' could result in something we could never take back.

 

You weren't around when he was "losing it." Neither was I. Neither was Milley. There is no evidence of his losing it, only partisan opinion. But I am curious why the left wants to defend a general undermining the power of the president. We don't know if it is true. But if it is true, then it is pretty serious. Why does it get a partisan pass? I can't figure it out unless democrats are defending a democrat for the normal partisan reasons.

 

I don't want a general undermining the authority of a POTUS - unless that POTUS is a threat to the country. Milley made a judgment call - perhaps his judgment was incorrect. And I don't disagree with having a hearing or trial about this....all the pertinent info should come out. If he undermined Trump and it wasn't something that people in his position would consider a threat, then he should face consequences. But let's find out all the details before we hang the man.

 

This fantasy world you guys live in sure is rich with imaginative narratives.

If you don’t listen to the media you are uninformed. If you listen to the media you’re misinformed.

 

There you go. Now we agree. Milley may have had permission to do what he did. The information from a book that came from unnamed sources isn't a reason to go nuts. Wait and see is the proper thing to do.

 

He didn’t. Permission would come from the President or the Secretary of Defense. Milley is simply a liaison between the two. Milley certainly doesn’t deny he made the call in fact the information for the book may have come from him. He is known to spill to journalists.

 

If that excerpt from Woodward's book is true, Milley belongs in Leavenworth... at minimum. It's crazy to watch people argue otherwise.

Either we have a Republic, or we have a Oligarchy that really doesn't follow the election results. You are going to have to choose Leftists... but it appears you have already went with the Authoritarian route.

 

Sorry, we don't know the details surrounding the whole issue. this whole thing may be what some people think or not. We have to wait and see. Incidentally, Milley isn't a liaison between the two. He is a presidential advisor that reports to the secretary of defense. He is not in the chain of command and has no command authority. He helps the president with decisions involving the military.