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Trump calls Michael Cohen payouts a ‘simple private transaction,’ denies they were campaign contribu

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by TRFjr, Dec 10, 2018.

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No.... that be half the America. Better half, mind you.
     
    Dutch, Dec 10, 2018
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  2. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you claimed that you didn't care if he was a thief. I never called him one.
     
    grapeape, Dec 10, 2018
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so directing some one to make a perfectly legal NDA is a felony how so ?
     
    TRFjr, Dec 10, 2018
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  4. struth

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    The acting director of the ethics office, David J. Apol, concluded that Trump's report "meets the disclosure requirements,
     
    struth, Dec 10, 2018
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  5. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    No, it still requires and knowingly and intention violation on Trump's part.
     
    struth, Dec 10, 2018
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  6. PeppermintTwist

    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No one is above the law as The USA is a nation of laws. If the office of the presidency is in any way influenced by a foreign power of a hostile foreign power holds sway over the office of the presidency due to compromising circumstances, the so called POTUS needs to be kicked to the curb as he is a danger and thereat to democracy and the American people. Anyone surprised that a lifelong grifter and thief like Trump would be culpable of such self-serving actions is not playing with a full deck.
     
    PeppermintTwist, Dec 10, 2018
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  7. TRFjr

    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    mistrial because the jury couldn't decide
    so there is no precedent
    its a lose to the prosecution and if the prosecution was so sure they would win they would have ordered another trail
    so them not ordering a another trial proves their case wasn't that strong
     
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  8. MrTLegal

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    Yea...lawyers who get directed by their client to violate law have a duty to refuse.
     
    MrTLegal, Dec 10, 2018
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    FFS. Read up on John Edwards. You guys act like this is some liberal plot, when we have very recent history of the repubs prosecuting a man for exactly the same thing. It IS a felony.

    I love how back 2 years ago, when this was originally brought to light, you all claimed "Trump did not direct this", now Cohen says he did, and you all switch to "its not illegal". FS, it's getting farcical now.

    Don't be "pathetic", just educate yourself before you try to debate something you obviously don't know anything about
     
    grapeape, Dec 10, 2018
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    It is a felony when the reason behind the "perfectly legal NDA" is to benefit a political campaign, you fail to report those payments and you intentionally take multiple actions to hide those payments.
     
    MrTLegal, Dec 10, 2018
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    by paying for it. It IS that simple
     
    grapeape, Dec 10, 2018
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    when losers cheat it's not as big a deal as when winner cheat, common sense - had Trump lost people would not spend the millions needed to bring him to justice, just the reality of it
     
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    Dear god man. Could you contort yourself more ? Keep trying to spin it tho
     
    grapeape, Dec 10, 2018
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    They were very definitely an attempt to prevent the scandals from hitting the streets just before the election.Very definitely were part of campaign politics.
     
    61falcon, Dec 10, 2018
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    And was that because they couldn't prove he directed it ?

    I haven't read that much on it, I just remembered it
     
    grapeape, Dec 10, 2018
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    How so? I'm not saying he shouldn't potentially have to pay a fine like the Obama admin.
     
    struth, Dec 10, 2018
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    Illegally donating, or giving anything of benefit to a campaign without properly reporting it to the FEC is a felony
     
    grapeape, Dec 10, 2018
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    so Cohen under pressure and intimidation agreed to believe it was for the benefit of the campaign
    now where is the evidence that Trump directed Cohen to make the NDA specifically to benefit the campaign?

    just because Cohen agreed to believe through threats and intimidation doesn't equate to Trumps intent why he wanted the NDA

    this is nothing but speculation and assumptions on your part crap conspiracy theories are created from
     
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    Proven false... enjoy your party though!
     
    Egoboy, Dec 10, 2018
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    Wanna post the entire segment from Apol?? I didn't think so...
     
    Egoboy, Dec 10, 2018
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    The irony of claiming that my position is nothing but speculation and assumption while you are also espousing a theory that is based on even larger and more dubious speculation and assumption is not lost on anyone.
     
    MrTLegal, Dec 10, 2018
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    actually brushing up on the case Edwards was found NOT GUILTY for the charge you are trying to hang on Trump

    Edwards was found not guilty on Count 3, illegal use of campaign funding
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Edwards

    mistrial on the other counts
     
    TRFjr, Dec 10, 2018
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    TRFjr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    yes because you cant prove Trumps intent you are speculating and assuming what was his intent
    Hillary rule no provable intent no crime
     
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    said the mob boss. Always somebody else to blame or take the fall.
     
    Jonsa, Dec 10, 2018
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    There were 6 counts. He was only found not guilty on one count of illegal campaign donations. The other counts were, 4 for more illegal campaign donations, and one for "false statements", which the jury deadlocked on, so the mistrial was declared.

    So there were 4 more of the "same thing trump is accused of".
     
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