Trump criticism got Colorado talk radio host fired while on air, he says

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  1. vman12

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    You may want to use a chart post-2014.

    Like this one.

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    2nd time I made fun of a political conspiracy, the link you provided was about a person's name and their safety which has nothing to do with this. Wasting my time again !!!!!
     
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    How about this one...?

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    Real wages have been stagnant since Trump took office.

    You seem determined to ignore the point I was making about real wages vs. real GDP per worker.

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    This problem has been going on for forty years. Trump hasn't solved it.
     
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    It's higher now than it's ever been, and Trump's only been at it for 3 years.

    And yes, wages are up, particularly for the lower 50%.

    You can stick GDP on the chart too if you'd like.

    As you can see, the lower 50% income is going up, while the upper 50% is going down.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/13/wor...e-getting-most-benefit-from-rising-wages.html

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    I noticed you didn't have the "courage" to answer such an easy question. Let me ask again:

    Please let me know if the question(s) don't make sense to you. Happy to break it down. Seeing as though you've been on both sides of the fence...would make sense if you were to clarify your stance.
     
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    Unless of course you're refusing to answer such easy questions...in which case...your "points" are not valid. I'm guessing you will not answer...
     
  7. Pollycy

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    For a growing percentage of an estimated 70,000,000 Boomers, the issue of 'wages' is now a moot point. People in their mid-60's and older are retiring, whether they want to or not.

    What about them? Social Security hasn't had a decent increase in cost-of-living in over TEN YEARS! Again, what about THEM?

    Politicians had better keep one thing in mind -- Boomers VOTE, and if even one Democrat candidate pulls his/her head out of his/her ass and focuses on this enormous group of voters and doing what's right by them for the first time in over ten years, Trump's got even more problems than he realizes.

    Hint to you, President Donald Trump -- Not everybody wants to be a STOCK MARKET GAMBLER.... And YOU and the Fed have already wrecked interest rates on savings accounts this year! You're a Boomer, too, sir, and you should remember that as a generation, we AREN'T STUPID. You gave me a 'tax-cut' worth about a thousand dollars... thank you. But then by crushing interest rates (again), you're taking away thousands of dollars in savings account income away from me and people like me! As we say down South -- "That dog don't hunt!"
     
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    My graph from the St. Louis Fed says otherwise.

    Your data doesn't include inflation, tax cuts, and the impact of rising minimum wages.
     
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    I think the program director was wrong, but Silverman could probably triple his salary by joining CNN.
     
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    Your graph says you'd like to ignore 2014-2016 which mine doesn't.

    My data shows the highest wage growth, particularly for the bottom 50%, in decades.

    I understand you'd like to pretend this is not true, but it won't work.
     
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    The Denver radio station that every pundit and 'talking head' wants to be on is the big, 50,000 watt station, KOA. I doubt very much that KOA would let even let Silverman polish a microphone there, let alone actually talk into it....

    KNUS is a relatively much smaller radio station (5,000 watts), whose signal rarely reaches beyond the Denver/Boulder metro areas... and sometimes it doesn't even saturate that area, either.

    The radio station that every other radio station west of the Mississippi River wants to be is WOAI in San Antonio. It is a clear-channel, 50,000 watt station which can be heard, often with surprising clarity, as far away as the Denver-Colorado Springs area, depending on the signal 'skip' factor. By contrast, even the mighty KOA can't be picked up without a lot of fading even as little as 100 miles away from Denver....
     
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    Make your money work for you. Pay attention to what is 'hot' in your neck of the woods, and invest in it. Relying on the government to support your needs and wants, gets you exactly what you've got.

    We say plenty of things here in the South, some of them not fit to print.
     
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    Radio stations, like all other businesses, are in for the money and the profit. The radio station and the FCC don't provide Mr. Silverman a platform to project his 1st amendment rights without strings attached. This is not a constitutional issue.

    I have to imagine we are only getting part of the story, and I would be willing to bet this isn't the first conversation Mr. Silverman had with the Program Director and the ownership of the station.

    Mr. Silverman is free to get an FCC license and setup his own studio to project his perspectives, but he does not have that right using other peoples equipment and licenses.
     
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    Watching Trump hand out tax cuts, mostly to 'big-biz' is one thing... the tax cuts were mostly a good-ish thing, although for quite a few of us, they didn't amount to more than a couple of thousand dollars -- at most. Think: how many people in the U.S. don't pay any federal income tax at all...? :omg: . So, a 'cut' in their taxes means what?

    But then, a year later, he's carping, bullying, and bitching for interest rates to be crushed -- AGAIN! This is beyond stupid, and the Fed knows it, because beginning in August 2007 the Fed began doing two things -- propping up and pumping up what had been an overvalued, criminally-run stock market, and, crushing interest rates -- at a time when demand for CASH and CREDIT was enormous! The Fed came to realize that with near-zero interest rates, kept for YEARS, all they did was turn the world's markets into a vast population of credit-addicts....

    Ten years after the end of the "Great Recession" the Fed had started to stimulate real growth in the economy via relatively modest official inflation, but Trump bitched about even these microscopic increases -- and last December, when the Fed increased interest rates another measly 25 basis-points, Trump went apoplectic, and the 'poor, wittle stock market' went into a nose-dive last January. THAT's how dependent these financial markets are on the über-addicting 'drug' of cheap money. Valuations mean little in such a sleazy, rotten series of 'casinos' which, frighteningly, haven't really changed that much since 2005 - 2006.

    So, now, who 'takes it up the ass' when the Fed chops interest rates -- again -- as it did starting in August 2007? People who are actually responsible and intelligent enough to SAVE money in SAVINGS ACCOUNTS, that's who....

    And a lot of us are retired or soon-to-be-retiring Boomers, who haven't seen a decent increase in SS benefits in TEN YEARS, and for three of those ten years, we saw no increase at all! Remember this -- Boomers vote, and we're not stupid! Trump and the Fed are attacking us on two fronts -- wrecking our savings accounts, AND, wrecking our EARNED Social Security benefits!
     
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    I am a 'boomer' also, with a savings account.

    But I don't leave my money just sitting there. I purchase assets, I make it work for me. I search for means and methods to increase my interest... different banks with 'bait' interest rates, as long as they don't require maintaining the account for an extended period of time. Investment assets like precious metals... the real stuff, not paper. The housing market here is hot, virtually anything that is possible to put on the market, is, but the auction market is still chugging along, so things are available to flip... now on house #2. Expecting about a 30% profit.

    If I would ever expect for Social Security to be a main source of income, then perhaps I'd have your worries. Yes, I am aware there are some people who do believe it should be the end all for their retirement, but there are also other assistance programs if they should need it.

    Yes we do vote. I guess it all depends on your end goal.
     
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    Oh, please--the graph that stopped in 2014 illustrated we have a four decade problem. Why don't you address the issue the graph illustrates? Because you don't understand the problem?
    Your graph goes back about a decade. Why didn't you come up with a graph that goes back the decades you were talking about? Because it takes a lot of time to dig up evidence we can display here?
    The increase in many state minimum wages may be a large part of the recent upturn in real income for lower wage brackets. There's nothing Trump did to the economy you can point to that caused the very recent uptick in the relative fortune of the bottom 50% of workers. Nothing.
     
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    The graph goes back to 1980.

    Look at the bottom.

    There's plenty I can point to, but you'd ignore them anyway.
     
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    Start with Tulsi Gabbard and Hillary's recent "Russian asset" smear. More than a couple here, jumped right on the wagon.
     
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    Nice info. If Silverman hates Trump AND doesn't worry about large audiences he would be a super fit at CNN.
     
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    You haven't pointed to anything yet? What did Trump do, specifically, that caused wages for the bottom 50% to increase faster than wages for the top 50%?
     
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    Hillary didn't get any support for her lone wolf attack, so you still have presented an example.
     
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    Why would I waste my time with someone who tries to disprove a graph that's in front of their face?
     
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    Make up whatever story you want.
     
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    Go look at the thread, I remember several here, agreed with Hillary.
     
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    You can't come up with anything. Got it. :rolleyes:

    Your graph goes back ten years or so, not decades.

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