Trump demanded Secret Service let rally attendees in with weapons

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  1. bx4

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    You don’t like her testimony so she must have perjured herself. Got it.
     
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    Exactly, there is literally an infinite amount of reasons why people would lie about this.

    it’s not evidence. It’s just people saying things.
     
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    You like her testimony so therefore it must be true... Got it.

    No evidence necessary just hearsay.

    If this were true it would have come out long ago.

    Or just like Christine blasey Ford. Just sit on it until the time is right.

    Liars often find it advantageous to let some time pass.
     
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    You like her testimony so it much be true. Got it.
     
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    I tend to accept her evidence because it was given under oath. It also seems consistent with what trump said publicly and what we know about him. Her evidence is believable.

    There is only one part of her evidence that is hearsay, and that relates to trump’s effort to grab the steering wheel. I would want to hear from the people in the car before I took any view on what to believe.

    But the rest of her testimony was not hearsay. It was sworn evidence. There is no reason to believe she perjured herself.
     
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    Shouldn't there be official transcripts of presidential communications?
     
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    Every word he says? I don’t think that has been the case since Nixon and Watergate when Nixon was recording meetings in the WH.

    In any event, the court system is based on using sworn testimony. She gave evidence under oath. You haven’t provided any reason to question the truth of what she said.
     
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    And, she's credible.
     
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    And your argument against my FACTS is:

    Oh, . . . . . . wait a minute .....

    Typical liberal response.
     
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    If you were on a jury in a criminal trial would you be willing to convict someone just because someone said they heard someone say something?

    I myself prefer some form of concrete solid evidence.

    But I know that when the jury in your mind is already made up that is not necessary
     
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    There are secret service agents willing to testify that trump didn’t lunge for the steering wheel.

    If she lied about that, why should we believe anything else she says?
     
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    So why did she wait this long to come forwards?

    That right there undermines credibility
     
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    That’s funny because the other people who were supposedly in the room when these things happened have already been interviewed and NOBODY else mentioned these things.

    Did they just forget?

    Or is she a liar because she knows she won’t have to justify her claims in court?
     
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    Leftist will believe anything
     
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    You prefer concrete, solid evidence? Then you must be very critical of dirty donny for telling his supporters on January 6 (and before then, and since then) that the election was stolen from him. Because not only is there no evidence to support his claim - the evidence all points the other way.
     
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    Well then let’s hear their testimony. Or their public statements.
    By the way - she didn’t testify that he lunged for the steering wheel. She testified that someone told her that.
    So show me this testimony or statement from these agents.
     
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    Who, specifically, has contradicted something she said? And what, specifically, was contradicted?
     
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    I'm sorry did you say something about Hillary Clinton saying he's not the legitimate president?
     
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    No I didn’t.
    Here’s what I’m saying.
    Hutchinson testified under oath about things she personally witnessed. That is evidence.
    She also testified about something she was told. That is hearsay.
    There is no evidence that contradicts or calls into question the veracity of her evidence.
    Her evidence is also consistent with what we know about donny. Her evidence is believable.

    Dirty donny has repeatedly said things about the election for which there is no evidence. No documentary evidence, not even sworn witness testimony. No evidence whatsoever. Yet you don’t criticize him for his lack of evidence.
     
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    Really? How, when, and by whom?

    I think it's also important to note this is not remotely a legally relevant story..... just a pantload of fun and another potential sign of Abby Normal Brain...
     
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    Damn dude, that is hysterically funny..

    MAGA desperation in the morning.... smells like victory...
     
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    As usual, the limo story is now debunked because some forum looky-loos have decided its been debunked..

    That's really not the way debunking occurs...

    As I said in another post... this is just the fun side of sedition... it's ultimately a meaningless story.

    I wish the media were focusing on the smoking gun part of her testimony, and I heard a few talking heads stay on focus last night, but the media is gonna media...
     
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    Whether it is true or not, my opinion is that people in the Trump orbit have leaked BS for years knowing that the Dems/msm will jump at everything and run with it

    Thus creating easily debunked "news" to build the "fake news" drumbeat to dismiss everything that is reported as being false

    This limo story sounds like another example of that. The J6 committee should have been focusing on first hand accounts and actual evidence, not hearsay
     
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    https://thepulseofnh.com/news/polit...-hutchinsons-testimony-about-handwritten-note

    Hutchinson might have committed perjury. Probably no one on the Committee will care.
     
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    Seems somebody needs the full Gym Jordan lesson on hearsay.

    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jim-jordan-attorney-hearsay-twitter_n_62bbb0dde4b0187add1983f4

    And I'm all for more first hand accounts.... who are you going to leg iron to get them to come in first??
     
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