Trump ended the rule blocking mentally ill people from getting guns.

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  1. APACHERAT

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    The safety on the AK-47 is where Avtomat Kalashnikova made his biggest mistake when designing the AK-47.

    The AK was designed for low IQ people, commies and even monkeys.

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    Little or no maintenance required, it doesn't require a rifle cleaning kit.
    Some AK-47 owners just pee on their AK-47 when it needs to be cleaned.

    But what was quickly learned during the Vietnam War during O-Dark Thirty, when Charley moved the safety from safe to semi or full auto fire, the safety was so loud is just sent out an message...Here I am you yankee imperialist scum..

     
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    It’s breathtaking to see the truth repeatedly expressed to the usual suspects on this thread and their insistence that “2 + 2 = 5”.
     
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    There are no gun nuts. But unfortunately there are nuts with guns.
     
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    They have full access to emergency rooms and follow up care if they pay for it like everyone else.
     
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    Oh trump knows his base....they aren’t smart enough to realize that people of all walks support gun control.But to a misogynist everything becomes feminist nonsense. Wanting to get rid of guns that can kill dozens of people in a minute to you is feminist. You really sound so fearful…
     
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    Why do we need guns that can have 100 bullets that can be shot off in a minute? People who feel they must have those I think are gun nuts...
     
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    That is horrible that we allow them emergency room care. There are millions of people who don’t pay for ERs ..we should let them die, preferably slowly.I will repeat again these people that you hate so much contribute billions of dollars into our economy
     
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    You know that's a movie right lol.

    Plus being able to genuinely just pee on your rifle to keep it clean is a pretty good design function. As one pretty famous gunsmith once said, the AK-47 platform is such a genius design that you can manufacture it terribly with cheap parts at it will still fire.

    I smile at the many AR owners who say they have to take their rifles out of the safe every once and awhile and oil them down. I bought a cheap old WASR from somebody years ago who had the thing sitting in his barn under a bunch of crap. Took it right to the range, loaded it up with cheap steel ammo, and fired off 90 rounds without a hiccup. Pretty sure that thing had been sitting there for like 10 years untouched.
     
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    I’m a liberal. I support intelligent restrictions on firearms. The difference between us is I am very familiar with and knowledgeable about firearms, where most of you anti gun types are woefully ignorant.

    No, just your usual bullshit you post is.

    Lol yea. I’m trembling over here.
     
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    And I am conservative! LOL I don’t have to be knowledgeable about specific fire arms to know that a gun that can shoot off 100 bullets and kill dozens of people in a minute is not a good thing . It’s like saying that somebody who is without a uterus and can’t get pregnant should have no say...
     
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    You are talking about magazines.
     
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    Emergency rooms are available to everyone. That’s the law. It is also the reason that US citizens now have to wait hours before being seen by an emergency room doctor.

    It is an established fact that illegal aliens are a net cost (expenses are greater than benefits) to the US economy.
     
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    I read a book that was translated from Russian to English on developing the 7.63X39mm cartridge that the AK-47 is chambered to use.

    Unlike doing what Germany did during WW ll with the German 7.62X57 mm (8mm Mauser) cartridge and shortening the case by 24 millimeters coming up with the 7.62X33mm for the Sturmgewehr- 44 assault rifle, The Kremlin took their standard service rifle cartridge 7.62X54mm R and shorten the case by 18 millimeters but also completely redesigned the bullet for the 7.62X39 mm cartridge that would be chambered for the AK-47 and SKS.

    They produced dozens of new bullet designs for the 7.62X39mm cartridge but it took almost a decade before they got it right.

    The original 7.62X39mm cartridge bullet didn't even have a boat tail.
    It does today.
     
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    Obama gave the Social Security Administration the ability to deny anyone drawing Social Security the right to buy a firearm. The denial violated various due process rights that every U.S. citizen is entitled to.
    The Fifth Amendment states: “No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law.”

    Due process is the right to challenge the government’s evidence in a court of law, have legal council, and to be able to present your own evidence.
    The Obama order bypassed the citizens’ right to have his or her day in court.

    H.J. Res. 40 passed both the House and the Senate with bipartisan support. The bill revokes an Obama-era rule that would have stripped Second Amendment rights from tens of thousands of people each year without due process.

    Under the Congressional Review Act, Congress is allowed to review, and revoke, any action an outgoing administration made in its final 60 legislative days. This rule falls under that time frame.
    The rule, finalized in December, would have resulted in 75,000 social security recipients who use a representative payee losing their Second Amendment rights without due process.

    The now-revoked rule would have affected those on disability for conditions that include eating disorders and anxiety, NOT MENTAL ILLNESS

    The move to revoke the rule was supported by the NRA, the ACLU, and more than a dozen mental health advocacy organizations.

    Simply put, you are misinformed about H.J. Res. 40. President Trump signed a bipartisan bill to revoke a last minute Obama gun grab attempt. Good on him for upholding the Constitution!
     
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    People have always had to wait hours in emergency rooms, nothing new . I remember my poor students having to sit with 104 fever in emergency rooms because they couldn’t see doctors .now at least that has changed for them But once again scapegoating a group. Yes it’s the immigrants fault. The nerve of them getting sick...let’s blame the immigrants for the long wait
    Maybe we should get rid of all those people in the red southern states who contribute less in taxes than they get in government support
     
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    Our forefathers all anticipated magazines with 100 bullets. There were a lot of things in the constitution that have been changed
     
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    So if you ban "guns that shoot off 100 bullets" whats to stop the next mass shooter from just buying 4 guns with 25 round magazines? So your law has done absolutely nothing.

    So if you are going to make a law that restricts a constitutional right it better actually have the effect that your trying to achieve.. yours will not
     
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    Why does anyone even need a gun with 25 rounds? Well let’s see if there is a mass shooter who buys for guns with 25 magazines. We know what happens with one gun. So let’s ban those and let’s see what happens. It’s like the people that were angry when they put the dangers of smoking on cigarette packs but yet smoking dropped drastically
    People had a right to enslave others in the constitution but sometimes things change. They had muskets then so no one is trying to ban muskets.Women were denied the right to vote in the constitution but we change things. What is wrong with regulating something? I bet you’re upset that they regulate the food you eat, they should be allowed to add horsemeat to our hamburgers.
     
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    Indeed they did. The concept of multi-shot, repeating firearms, predated the founding fathers of the united states themselves by decades.
     
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    Silly me, I should have know there were AR15s in the 1700s
     
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    Your argument doesn't hold water. Our forefathers wrote the constitution as a framework. Not as a fluid document to be changed on a whim. We have a supreme court that interprets the Constitution as our forefathers intended. And as intended they knew there would be dissenting opinions. Yes, there have been amendments to the Constitution. We have more rights and freedom as a result, not less.

    BTY, understand what you are talking about when you discuss guns or gun control. Bullets are projectiles (the lead that is shot out the muzzle end of a rifle or handgun). What you are referring to is known as a cartridge. It does make a difference.
     
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    Forgive my ignorance about guns. And I hope you never talk about abortion
     
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    It's much longer now. I live in California.
     
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    Simply put, Trump has made it easier for unstable people to get firearms.

    The comments about Obama in no way excuse Trump's action.

     

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