Trump family heads to court to stop book by president's niece, Mary Trump, publisher says

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  1. Antiduopolist

    Antiduopolist Well-Known Member

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    She can't disclose what she can't disclose.

    It's not rocket science.

    End of story.
     
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    he buys people silence, just like Stormy is my guess,
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    she can disclose what ever she wants, but Trump may use the NDA to punish her for telling his secrets
     
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    Another book!

    Something designed to make money!

    Someone’s releasing one of those saying exactly what gullible people want to hear?!

    Shocking, I say!
     
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    It is amazing, isn't it? The lengths to which followers will go to support their dear leader. Everyone who has a book out is a traitor or a liar. Everyone who opposes Trump is a radical socialist. The list of military leaders who oppose him and give solid reasons for the opposition is growing by the day. But that doesn't change a thing in their minds. Somehow, we have a country where people will go to the ends of the earth to support their 'side'...and we see it on both sides. There is no need for thinking - just follow along and do what you're told by the political side you support.
     
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    Yes, because making money is only okay when Trump does it.

    If the information isn't true, then why is it covered by an NDA? Similarly, if the information in Bolton's book isn't true, then how can it be classified?
     
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    I didnt say it was wrong, just that its clearly the goal here. Not truth seeking, not revealing any hidden truths. It’s simply the taking advantage of gullible people and selling a product.
     
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    You are contradicting yourself. It would only be taking advantage of "gullible" people if it wasn't true.

    As far as making money and truth seeking go, the existence of nonfiction as a genre shows that these are not mutually exclusive.

    Do Trump supporters really believe that it is "gullible" to believe the truth?
     
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    I’m not contradicting myself at all. It absolutely is taking advantage of the gullible. They will take a mountain of lies built on a shred of truth and call it all true. That’s not my fault. Your inability to understand that type of nuance is not my fault. This is all about money, not truth seeking.
     
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    Your assertion that those two are mutually exclusive is nonsense. And there's obviously at least some truth in there that has Trump worried. Though I'm pretty sure he's tried to sue/threatened anyone who writes a negative book about him. Hell, he even sued someone for writing an article and drawing a cartoon that called his building plan ugly, so it could be something petty rather than something substantial.
     
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    Nope, its not nonsense at all. It’s simply recognizing the objective reality for what it is. I dont blame him for trying, people lying about you for money is undoubtedly annoying.
     
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    It could be intentional. She writes book. He goes to court to try to stop its publication which creates more interest in whatever he hopes to hide (knowing that he can't). Win-win for keeping the money in the family.
     
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    Lol, if that's what you think then you should really look into the actual court cases and his habit of losing them to those same writers. His seething hatred for the First Amendment is kind of hilarious.
     
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    Ah, so you have a copy of the NDA? Care to share with us? If you don't, then you don't actually know what she can and can't disclose.
     
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    Part of most, if not all, non-disclosures stipulate that the X information cannot be discussed PERIOD. It would make no sense otherwise. Oh, I cannot tell you anything about Joe Schmo. That, in itself, is disclosure.
     
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    But we don't know the value of X, that's what I'm getting at. Anything that is not covered by the NDA, she can discuss, obviously, and we don't know what is and isn't covered.
     
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    It must be said that we are on a discussion forum.

    So we have people who are convinced of their political position from the outset.

    This is not the case in the general population. There are many more independents than before.
     
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    That IS the point. If he successfully stops the publication, she disclosed something protected by the NDA. I would find it very unlikely he could win though. Publishers aren't keen on releasing stuff that they believe won't sell or cannot be sold. He is creating more interest in the book by trying to stop it.
     
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    You make a great point - I have to remind myself of that every time I sign off here for the day. I don't encounter the extremism of views (from either side) in general political conversations IRL.
     
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    Reminds me of the case against the founder of Westborough Baptist Church. He sued to stop the publication of a book about him and won . . . but the book was admitted into evidence and became public domain.
     
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    Exactly. Either way, the information gets out there. The only differences are who gets rich off it.
     
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    Bullshit ... keep it under your hat.
     
  23. Denizen

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    You have invented a book that makes bleating, blubbering, and sucking sounds when opened?
     
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    Sorry. What BS? Trump getting impeached for completely unrelated accusations that were tossed against him for 3 yrs because none of them stuck? Obama could have been impeached for obstruction for lying about Obamacare, lying about Fast and Furious, lying about Benghazi.... if Republicans were as vindictive as Democrats. But they’re not. They’re actual adults.
     
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    It would seem that for some, this is rocket science...

    She can't legally disclose that which she agreed not to.

    She can't legally defame him.

    If she wants to call her book "Trump is a Nazi Martian From Uranus," & express her desire for fame and wealth via the ongoing obsessional fad of Trump-bashing, framing her opinions clearly as such, she is free to do so, and obtain her 15 minutes of infamy.

    Capiche?

    :)
     
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