Trump floats delaying election despite lack of authority to do so

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  1. Bluesguy

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    No there isn't and we don't vote nationally. We still have New York trying to determine mail in voting results from June. 20% uncounted and discarded in one race. More discarded in another than the margin of a win.
     
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    He hasn't told me anything.
     
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    I don't care what he is saying I don't follow his tweets like you.
     
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    Sounds like in-person voting isn’t secure.
     
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    I wonder if there is a way to vote via Internet. This has levels of extremely strong encryption for things like purchases so maybe identity can be just as secured.

    A thought.
     
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    Here is the ultimate hypocrisy, one just can't make it any better for late night comedians.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/31/white-house-condemns-hong-kong-election-delay-389504
     
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    Sure he has.

    He told you, personally, that you should not vote in the most corrupt and fraudulent election in US history. Your vote won't matter, according to Donald Trump.

    I don't think you should listen to him and that you should still vote, but you make your own choice.
     
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    Isn't the Federalist Society the organization that is partly responsible for unloading all of these unqualified judges into the American Justice system??

    This guy doesn't sound thrilled with Trump's tweet

    SNIP
    He voted for President Trump in 2016 and opposed his impeachment earlier this year, but Steven Calabresi, co-founder of the conservative Federalist Society, believes Trump took things too far by tweeting about delaying November's election.

    In an op-ed published Thursday afternoon by The New York Times, Calabresi, a professor at Northwestern University's Pritzker School of Law, wrote that he was "appalled" by Trump's tweet. "Until recently, I had taken as political hyperbole the Democrats' assertion that President Trump is a fascist," he added. "But this latest tweet is fascistic and is itself grounds for the president's immediate impeachment again by the House of Representatives and his removal from office by the Senate."
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/federalist-society-co-founder-says-032900857.html

    It's not too late, Fat Jerry....
     
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    Yeah, there is. If people would actually work in making it happen instead of purposefully wasting time, it could be done. It’s not being done because some people don’t want to do it, not because it’s not possible.

    Okay, so you’ve shown that we are human. We have problems virtually every election. Remember when a state screwed up the walk-in count so bad, we needed the Supreme Court to elect our president for us?

    By your logic, we should have scrapped walk-in voting 20 years ago.
     
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    So people are willing risk infection in order to eat, they ought to be perfectly happy taking a risk to vote? And again, I don’t hear too many people all excited to go out grocery shopping right now.

    That seems pretty weak considering there’s no evidence to prove which election style is more corrupt. A walk-in vote resulting in the Supreme Court deciding our election outcome for us 20 years ago, and we’ve had similar problems with walk-in voting more recently. Numerous states have had mail-in voting for a long time already. Are there any documented cases of corruption in their systems for the years? Hold on; let me see.

    I’m also fine with letting states decide for themselves, since the feds can’t authorize it directly anyway. There’s no reason why, let’s say, hypothetically, NJ, where people are generally following the guidelines and taking the virus very seriously, wants to do mail-in, but Floridian’s, where people are cool with house parties and beach bathing, like walk-in voting. NJ should be free to do mail-in, and FL should feel the same about walk-ins.
     
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    People are also willing to go to screaming protests with no social distancing and few wearing masks.

    This virus will get you one way or the other and I’m glad I was able to catch it early. I’m sorry but only 7 or 8 out of ten thousand die after exposure and most of those are presumed cases.

    But let’s get real here. The real reason that people oppose walk in voting is that they know it discourages turn out from demographics that will vote for Biden.

    Oh and by the way liquor stores are considered to be as essential as grocery stores so this whole lockdown process is a joke intended to appease those too afraid to live in the real world of microorganisms and those who are happy not to work.
     
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    Not work that can be completed in time and we have already seen the problems with those that have.

    I take it you are referring to Florida 2000 execpt you need to get your facts straight. Gore sued CLAIMING there were such problems but summarily lost in the circuit court which found NO such problems. Cite the court decision that elected Bush43.

    You seem to have difficulty with logic.
     
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    Well, I'm just not going to agree that we can't orchestrate this. More than half the states already allow it, and we've seen plenty of examples of how any system of voting can be corrupted. I don't see how the possible issues are any worse of the possible issues involved with any form of voting.

    Okay. If you want to argue over semantics, it was an election decided ultimately by the Court due to screw ups concerning the voting process.

    Wow. You're moody.
     
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    Good point.
     
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    The states do not have the ballot mechanism for had prepared for mass mailing out the ballots or receiving them back in and if we have learned anything from these rush jobs is that it needs to be studied to see if it is even feasable without damaging the integrity of the election. I have voted twice during the pandemic and have had no problems at all.

    It is not semantic at all it called the facts. Gore tried to contest the election based on problems at the polling places, he was pretty much laughed out of court by Judge Saul with his claims one the more amusing was the the theory that through multiple elections the chads being pushed down into the tablet "stacked up" under the hole and got so high it made it difficult to push the chad through. Forgetting the fact that the tablets are handled during each election and turned sideways and upside down and yes even emptied. As I said laughable. There were no problems with that election tabulations, Gore lost it by 236 votes. And again give me the ruling where the SCOTUS declared who would be President, do you even know what they ruled on?


    Moi! You are the one who turned it "moody" I was just responding.
     
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    Here's some more Trump news.... I wonder if there is a SINGLE GOP Senator who thinks this is even abnormal?

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-skirts-senate-install-nominee-232610946.html

    I mean, it's all appropriate since we have an Acting President (in name only), but I wonder if Susie still thinks Trump has "learned his lesson"?

    Serious question... what in this system of government would stop Trump from arresting RBG and replacing her with yet another conservative hack judge to be designated as the judge "performing the duties of" a Supreme Court Justice?

    Answer - Nothing
     
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