Trump has to go-He's had his chance-I've given up waiting for him to act like a human being

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  1. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

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    Conspiracy #3,876. Lol
     
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    And I rest my case.
     
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    I'll assume it's all lies because the media is biased and can't be trusted.
     
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    Conspiracy theory #1, Trump colluded with Russia.
     
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    Anyone who:

    Smashes their phones with a hammer to destroy evidence

    Deletes 33,000 emails & bleaches a server after a Congressional subpoena

    And lies about compromising confidential material

    Should be found guilty of obstruction of justice

    So why did Hillary get off?
     
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    That was investigated. Should it have not been investigated? But we do know that there was obstruction of justice and we also know how many of the people working for Trump have been indicted and sent to prison for lying. Oh I know, fake news
     
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    Lol..and anyone who doesn’t educate themselves on these falsehoods isn’t the brightest bulb. Why did Hillary get off? Because your bullshit above wasn’t true. You can bet the Republicans wanted to get her but they couldn’t because she never did those things but I guess Fox News told you that so it must be true. Come on educate yourself a little I won’t tell Trump
     
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    That’s what fascists do they tell the uneducated that everything the media tells them isn’t true.You would prefer they be no media so you wouldn’t have to hear facts. There are newspapers like the New York Times that are respected all over the world and with the Pulitzer Prize is on their reporting. But of course you don’t believe them. If they weren’t legitimate news sources they wouldn’t be respected. We are not talking about opinion pieces we are talking about straight news reporting. But Trump knows his face and he wants them to yell fake news fake news just like a little kids and that’s why he talks to them like they are children
     
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    It's called fruit of the poisonous tree. No, it should not have been investigated because it was started with false accusations from Crooked Hillary who won't accept the election results. All charges should be dropped. They were politically motivated charges to punish people for being in the Republicans side of the isle.
     
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    Destroyed Blackberrys with hammers? Can we get a factcheck on that on the fly?



    Uh, yes, they did that...
     
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    The MSM are the fascists.
     
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    Wait, I thought this was about Trump and now you are talking about Obama. But I agree with you, Obama was more than willing to trash and shame our nation.
     
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    I think his behaviour is very human, perhaps more so than those before him who tried to portray perfection... the air of nothing bothers me. Love him or hate him you have to remember Washington is a viper pit, we don't see his responses in that context but that's where he's responding from.
     
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    Educate themselves on falsehoods! They eat, breathe, and immerse themselves in falsehoods every day. It is their life's blood. They don't want to know the truth. They want to wallow in ignorance. Because once they begin to learn the truth.....the whole foundation of everything they believe in begins to crumble.

    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...-trump-says-hillary-clinton-deleted-33000-em/

    What's more, they have created a construct whereby they can rationalize refusing to accept the truth. How? Let's take my link as an example. It quotes Comey, who led the investigation in to Hillary's emails. By necessity he has been tarnished by the Liar-in-Chief so they get to dismiss anything he says.......no matter how factual. Where does the link come from? The construct has that covered too. It comes from the "fake news" media. So again, no matter that what is reported is factual the construct gives them the permission they need to deny the facts.

    The same thing is playing out with Mueller's report. Many Trumpists keep posting things about the report that are the exact opposite of the facts. How? They eschew reality in favor of right wing media lies because Faux has convinced them everyone else lies but Faux..............WHEN THE OPPOSITE IS TRUE.
     
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    Translation for the TDS afflicted - 0range man bad
     
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    Sadly, reality dictates most of us accept the daily evidence that yes, 0range man bad.
     
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    Just because you hate Trump, does not mean every thing you imagine, or your fellow Trump-haters say about him, is true.

    Three separate times, Mueller was asked if the Office of Legal Counsel's memo, stating a sitting president cannot be charged, was the reason he did not charge Trump with obstruction of justice, and three times Mueller said "no." It's clear that Trump did not meet the standards for obstruction of justice.

    No amount of mud you throw at the wall will make the charge of obstruction stick to Trump.
     
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    I agree that Trump's persona, his personality is better suited to being a wrestler in the WWE than the occupant of the White House. He's course, brash, uncouth. The reason we have Trump in the White House is whom the Democrats picked to oppose him in 2016. I'm believe any other Democrat would have trounced Trump. But Hillary never really tried to win. Even so, the earth, moon, sun, planets, even galaxies had to line up perfectly for Trump to win.

    With all Trump's temper tantrums, feud creating, name calling he reminds me of a five year old kid whose parents failed to teach him any manners. Tact he doesn't have. I think it's Trump's character and certainly his unpresidential behavior that has led to a loss of independent support for him. Independents are split on his policies and stances on the issues, for some, against some. What other reason than outside of his distasteful personality and character would Trump lose their support? Remember independents voted for Trump 46-42 over Hillary Clinton with 12% voting third party, against both Trump and Clinton.

    When Trump first took office in January of 2017, 44% of independents had a favorable view of him 41% unfavorable. Real close to the actual vote Trump received from independents in 2016. Question 125

    http://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/pyonz5d0lq/econTabReport.pdf

    Today, 40% of independents view Trump favorably. Not bad one might think when compared to 2017 or 2016. It's a four point drop from when Trump first took office and a six point drop from the percentage of the vote he received from independents in 2016. But his unfavorable's has risen among independents, to 51% today. Question 70A.

    https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/c4ndc02jx7/econTabReport.pdf

    That's a ten point rise since January 2017, nine points more than the votes Hillary received in 2016. Why do I think the favorable/unfavorable ratings are important? History has shown folks usually do not vote for someone they dislike.

    My bottom line is because of Trump's obnoxious personality, his juvenile behavior more fitting to a spoiled brat, his in your face schoolyard bulling antics that he will be unable to win independents come reelection time. Unless the Democrats nominate another Hillary Clinton, someone who is as disliked as Trump by America as a whole. Especially independents, 2020 should belong to the Democrats.
     
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    But, because the Democratic Party is now so far left, that even Biden is piling on the Green New Deal bandwagon, Trump will win a second turn.

    Americans are not socialists, and yet all the (D) front runners are beating each other up to see who can out socialist the other.

    No matter how badly the US educational system has distorted socialism, so as to cause so many skulls full of mush to think socialism means freedom, fairness, and justice for all.
     
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    We'll see. I think Trump supporters were basically saying the same thing prior to the midterms, that there was no way the GOP would lose the house because of the good economy. I think Trump supporters, republicans haven't yet realized how much the man grates on independents. If you look at Trump's policies and his stances on different issues, you find independents are for some, against some, fairly evenly split.

    Yet they switched from voting for Trump and Republican congressional candidates in 2016 to voting for Democratic congressional candidate in 2018. There has to be a reason why. Why would independents desert Trump and the Republicans for the Democrats?
     
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    I think trump has done plenty to not deserve the benefit of doubt.
     
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    The Mueller effect helped to win the dems the House. Mueller knew before the mid term elections that no one was guilty of collusion with the Russians, but he wanted to remain silent so as to affect the mid terms.

    Many Republican voters stayed home, while other voters went to the polls in 2018 to vote for dems, because they thought Trump just might be a traitor, having colluded with the Russians.

    By the time we go to the voting booth in 2020, the DOJ OIG report will have already come out showing the corruption and abuse of power employed by Obama's DOJ against Trump. There might already be indictments served for the people involved before the end of this year. Meanwhile, the dems in Congress will be seen as wasting their elected seats to do nothing but go on endless, politically motivated, witch hunts against Trump
     
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    Boy does trump know his base.!It was investigated by the way when the three parts of government were Republicans...including mueller Hillary isn’t the one who made the charges by the way. What amazes me is that we know that Russia invaded our democracy....Why should charges be dropped against people who lied? Did you say that about Clinton when he lied about something as benign as consensual sex? How come it doesn’t bother you that Russia manipulated our democracy? You can keep saying it’s not true because lardass tells you that...Even Republicans admit that it’s true. What do you think , WikiLeaks, was a figment of our imagination? Do you think all those false Facebook quotes were done by democrats?What I find so despicable is that the Republicans like you, not all, don’t bother to educate them selves and learn the facts and just scream fake news just the way any good what dictatorship works.Trump knows his face and that’s why he talks to them like they are stupid. He was in London and lied to them and they know it but people like you just believe it,… Like we have the best air we have ever had. Bullshit
     
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    I have heard some conspiracy theories, but this one is comical.If he wanted the Democrats to lose he would have come out before the election because the base believes that mueller found nothing. After all Barr said so....No the Democrats won in the mid term because they see we have a narcissistic pathological lying president who is destroying our democracy and dividing our country in half. We know there are many acts of obstruction that mueller did not act on because he couldn’t.
    I also find it so cute that you have to bring up Obama again.. What I find pathetic is that you don’t want to I was very democracy being compromised investigated. That’s why Trump loves people like you
     
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    The Democrats only won the House. They lost the Senate. Where do bills go when they leave the House?
     

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