Trump intends to choose Amy Coney Barrett for Supreme Court

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  1. Quantum Nerd

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    Funny how it wasn't found unconstitutional in 10 years. I remember that discussion about the mandate. Since it is a tax, it is not unconstitutional. However, I am not a law expert and say this from memory, not from doing research.
     
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    Indeed. Thank you, Harry Reid.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Does it means, you’ll vote to re-elect Donald Trump?
     
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    Yes, Justice Roberts twisted like a pretzel for that one. I'd argue even as a tax(and this is now before the SCOTUS), now you run into interstate commerce. And is taxing individuals for buying or not buying a legal maneuver under interstate commerce and if so, are there any limits?

    Because theoretically the government could tax you for not buying item x. Like for example, Ivanka's fashion line.
     
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    True charity comes from ones heart by choice. Democrat pseudo charity comes from taxpayers at gunpoint as if it were a debt. And never the twain shall meet. True charity cannot be owed or demanded, because to presume to be owed charity is to deserve hell. To the priest craft of liberalism, God is an amateur. They're more into image than doing. Why should a Democrat sacrifice his/her life in actual service to even one needy person when he/she can pass legislation to create the appearance of having served them all, thus keeping Democrats lives to themselves, and the needy at a great distance.
     
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    So where does it stop? Will I be forced to pay for everyone's everything? Is that where this ends?

    If you are really concerned about others' healthcare, you would pay for it yourself without government force. Whatever happened to freedom and liberty?
     
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    It's not a tax. It's a fine or penalty for not purchasing something the government wants you to. This does not meet the definition of a tax.
     
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    The Supreme Court ruled that the ACA is a tax.


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5765941/
     
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    Incorrectly ruled. There is no historical precedent for that that interpretation in law or in common use and certainly not in the time of writing.
     
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    Oh I agree. Only the House can create taxes and the ACA began in the House as a housing bill before being completely reworded in the Senate as the ACA. The proof is right there on Congress’ website.
     
  11. Bush Lawyer

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    Down here, I am reading that Barrett is religiously cultist, ie Hand Maids Tail, akin. Is that correct?
     
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    I guess so. That is, if you consider the Roman Catholic Church to be a cult.
     
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    I think this is a massive gamble on Trump's part, he's appealing to the religious right over Latino voters. Maybe he wants a contentious senate hearing to rule up his base?
     
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    No I don't consider the Roman Catholic Church a cult at all. I know I could Google it myself, but maybe you can tell me.

    What is People of Praise?
     
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    Actually, I think that this is yet another genius move by Trump. He didn’t enjoy a long wealthy career before becoming the President of the United States by being a dumbass.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2012/04/04/v-politics-values-and-religion/
     
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    I don’t know. I don’t rightly care to know either.
     
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    Well, you should. After all, Barrett is gonna be making decisions about your Country, you and your family for a very long time. My own preference would be to have no-one on Scotus who occupies a place in the extreme religious fringe.
     
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    We’ve had extreme liberal fringes like Ginsberg in the Supreme Court. Why not an extreme religious fringe to help balance things out?
     
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    I was unaware that Ginsberg was someone of the extreme liberal fringe. How can there be a balance of what you allege about Ginsberg given she is still not six foot under....but is a cadaver?

    Are you conceding that Barret is of the extreme religious fringe?
     
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    Why would I care how religious that Barrett is? I’m just happy that the liberal nut is off the Supreme Court now.
     
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    Are you conceding that Barret is of the extreme religious fringe?
     
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    Do you have a habit of asking the same questions twice?
     
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    No.
     
  24. Bush Lawyer

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    Okay. So what is that People of Praise Mob?
     
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    Only when it is not answered the first time I ask.
     

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