Trump needs to Go

You mean many leftists are praying for a downturn.

One which isn't happening.

 

You were the one trying to make the point...where's your source? You were refuting the article.

Good point.

 

I don't think you understood my post you just liked.

Might want to remove that.

 

Yes. Obama, after bailing out the economy, went straight into enhanced health[wel]fare with a carte blanche Democratic House & Senate and ran up the deficit recklessly and horribly. And now we have President Quid-Pro-Quo who failed to, "repeal-and-replace," so he went straight for the Republican mainline, with a carte blanche House & Senate, implementing huge tax breaks for the wealthy & corporations and never addressing the deficit. And so it goes...

 

Why? You were correct.

 

Where's your source that the "2016 figure had to do with employment, not production?"

 

Oh I see we're having an honest discussion. Well done.

You realize, of course, that there's little the POTUS can do when it comes to spending money.

I mean yes, they can request more money than is good, or request stupid stuff.

The truth is we don't have an income problem, we have a spending problem, and that's all on Congress.

The other problem is that there is no room to save money anymore, with 2/3'ds of the budget going to entitlements.

 

Honesty is rare here.

 

Agreed, in the traditional sense anyway. Current POTUS, however, is snatching money Congressionally allocated for the Military and spending it on a wall (there is a thin thread of "national defense" rationale involved) - note Mitch McConnell rose against hitting Kentucky's military budget for new on-base schools... But even more troubling is the POTUS' heavy hand being used on the Fed regarding rates and, of course, freezing Congressionally mandated support for Ukraine until a political favor was performed by said recipient. And yeah, not much into tribal drum beating and have a disdain for lockstep smoke signals. All this affects moral, spending, and takes a huge toll on good will. The economy follows.

 

LOL! We need more of it ~ everywhere!

 

That's a separate issue (and not sure it's 2/3 the budget - think Military Budget is pretty healthy). Under Obama, and during the bank bail out, SSDisability Income, free HealthCare (in addition to the many states with Obamacare), and massive amounts of Food Stamps all became available for many new throngs of un(and under)employed, middle-aged, "handicapped," folks with unchecked ailments ranging from a bad back to a bad personality (even originating from self-inflicted drug and alcohol dependence). They get full retirement benefits as if they'd worked past age 65. Add to this that a near zero Fed rate means a near zero interest return on simple savings accounts. Unless you've got a 401K or stock market savvy you aren't growing funds in your personal savings account. Retirees in their 60's who paid into the system for 40 or more years really are, "entitled," and yet they get lumped in with all the derelicts from the Bush/Obama years (described above).

 

Trump needs to stay and we need to take the House and keep the Senate so he can finish all the things he has started which has helped all citizens and small businesses. The Obama deficit was much much higher and did more damage than good. At least Trumps expenditures have provided good outcomes.
We voted for him because he wasn't a Politician and against the Status Quo.

We need term limits to fully improve our Federal Government.

The FBI and Intelligence Community have not shown him that they can be trusted to be bias free and do their jobs and not leak information to the media. So I think that is why he decided to take the Russian investigation into his own hands.

The whistle blower and those that are said to have given him sensitive info have proven Trump right.

 

It is.

The green is entitlements.

The only place we can cut money from is the yellow part, which is literally everything else.

 

Do you know how much we spend on illegal immigration every year?

They just appropriated 40 billion to cover the surge from THIS year to take care of all the illegals pouring over the border. That doesn't include the 100+ billion we spend on the ones already here.

Where we have placed walls (San Diego, Yuma, etc) illegal apprehensions have dropped by 90% plus.

Building a wall doesn't cost us money: it saves us money.

If the door on your house is broken, would it be more expensive to replace it or leave a hole there in the long run?

 

Yes, entitlements (SS, Medicare, Medicaid, ObamaCare, Welfare, etc.) is over 60% of total federal spending.

 

The articles are saying that the index has not been this low since 2009.. regardless

It is not simply on the manufacturing index that I claimed Trump should go - and this has very little to do with the issue on itself - likewise I never would have claimed Obama should go on similar grounds.

You should try reading the entire post rather than misrepresenting a tiny part of a post.

That said - I did state that Obama needed to go ... just not for something as silly as a short term trend in the manufacturing index.

 

That it does ... and most of the 2017 deficit.

 

The index dropped near this low in 2016 under the Presidency of Barak HUSSEIN Obama.

 

So What ? why does it matter - do you have something to say ? - .. this is the second time you have stated this the index was low during Obama's time.. only the second time it did not contain a strawman fallacy - Which is an improvement I guess - but no you are now re stating what was addressed in the previous post ? without addressing my response that I have already given you to this question.

It is like this vicious circle of fallacy followed by mindless repetition ... .

Do you have a something other than fallacy - followed by feigning ignorance ? ...

 

So what that the fricking manufacturing index is down right now. It will go back up!!!!!!

 

Trump needs to go? Says who? Democrat Socialists that want to run this Country into the ground? As one of those suburban women with a College degree I can tell you there are many many many of me out in the suburbs.And we are not milkeniaks. Our kids are.

 

Indexes go up and down ... a brilliant deduction Watson - What does this deduction have to the claims made in my posts - and/or my response to this deduction the other 2 times you made it - or in my original post?

The vicious cycle of fallacy followed by mindless repetition continues.

 

Agreed (to a point). But the point being made here is that Congress appropriates spending (which, it was, asserted, is why our economy is jammed up). A Presidential spending override, even when warranted, makes that point moot. And what about holding Congressionally mandated appropriations for foreign allies (defending themselves from our age old nemesis) until they provide personal political fodder for a President? Anyone who supports these 2 scenarios should consider moving to a monarchy.

 

In case you missed it the Obama admin argued it had discretion on how and when it could administer congressional laws.

 

Not sure where your numbers are coming from, or what it has to do with this topic, but it seems, "entitlements," account for a little over half the budget [https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/US_fed_spending_pie_chart] which is high enough for sure. Get rid of SSD for about 90% of the recipients, and quit funding healthcare, and we'd be in pretty good shape.