Trump on Ilhan Omar: “There's a lot of talk about the fact that she was married to her brother...

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  1. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    It's been shown to you. I posted a link in this thread. Here is from old DD himself:

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    That's literally the same thing before of him supporting a statement she made
     
  3. Lil Mike

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    If you don't believe a statement from him voicing support, I don't know what you are expecting.
     
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    I do believe his post of him voicing his support, but he's voicing support for a statement she made, similar to how the president voiced support to a statement Mussolini made, or how I have voiced support for statements the president has made. Again, David Duke doesn't believe people like Omar should be allowed to hold office in the United States, perhaps he's making an exception for Omar, but you haven't really provided anything to support that notion, everything you have shared so far has been a re-posting of his support for the same statement.

    If you could provide anything showing he supports her outside of the statement she made, that would be different. Perhaps a statement of him endorsing her, or him voicing support for her voting record. Anything to show he is a supporter of hers outside of merely supporting a statement she made would be adequate
     
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    Is this a joke? 304 replies, 1841 views, this is what interest Trumpets? Good Lord. These people chose our President in 2016.
     
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  6. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    Saying that "Ilhan Omar is NOW the most important Member of the US Congress!" seems like an endorsement of her not just her statements. I assume you have a different interpretation?
     
  7. TCassa89

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    My interpretation would be the literal definition of the word "important"

    It is possible he meant more than that in his use of the word, however I have not seen anything to suggest that. If he did endorse her, that would be an exception to his general ideology, which is that people like Omar should A. Not be allowed into the country, and B. Not be allowed to hold political office
     
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    If your opinion is based on what you're guessing Duke would do, it looks like you struck out.

    David Duke endorses anti-Israel candidate from Brooklyn


    It's pretty clear that Duke's real enemy are...the Jews. So he seems willing to reach across the color barrier for allies. That's why Omar is a natural ally to him.
     
  10. TCassa89

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    Why are you posting an article from 2012 about Duke endorsing an entirely different person?

    It's not an assumption what David Duke's position is, he does not believe African refugees should be allowed to live in the country, nor does he believe that foreigners should be allowed to hold office in the United States. Perhaps he makes an exception for Omar, but I haven't seen anything to suggest that.
     
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  11. Lil Mike

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    Because you can't apparently understand how Duke could support Omar. You seem totally confused that an anti-semite might support another anti-semite. So this doesn't really have anything to do with African refugees yet you keep bringing that up as if that has something to do with the links I've provided. If you still have not "seen anything to suggest that" than you are either being purposefully obtuse, or not reading the links, which I suppose, is being purposefully obtuse.
     
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    Well yes it does, because Omar herself is an African refugee. David Duke doesn't believe people like her should be allowed to live in the country, or hold office, and he really wouldn't likely be one to support someone like Omar on domestic policy or foreign policy. Now maybe he does make an exception for Omar, and it is possible he supports her policies, however I say we have not seen anything to suggest this because we've only seen him express support for a statement Omar made regarding AIPAC. If you have more to share about Duke's supposed support for Omar, then feel free to add it to the discussion
     
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    Worse. 304 replies, 1841 views (more since you posted of course) and still nothing resembling a modicum of evidence. We're just seeing the latest iteration of birther and pizza gate willing self-deception it seems.
     
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    Lol...There's a lot of talk about the fact that trump was laundering money for the mafia and the oligarchs.
    There's a lot of talk about the fact that trump has assaulted large numbers of women.
    We could go on and on.
     
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    A lot of talk and no evidence.

    More #fakenews.
     
  16. Lil Mike

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    I've already provided the evidence, and you are discounting anyway for no empirical or factual reason; simply because you can't understand as simple a concept as " the enemy of my enemy is my friend." I can't help you understand that if you can't get it already.
     
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    Your post only showed that Duke supported a statement that Omar made about AIPAC, if have anything showing any support for Omar beyond the statement about AIPAC, then feel free to include it in this discussion.
     
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    That seems like that's Duke's most important issue, so what are you questioning?
     
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    As a white nationalist, David Duke's most important issue would probably be policies that maintain a white majority in the United States, considering that's pretty much the whole basic of the ideology(that is, having a country whose national identity is white). If he believes lobbyist money is the main threat to having a national identity that is white, then that could very well be his number one issue. So again, I do not rule out the possibility, what I was asking for was anything to show he supports Omar beyond expressing support for a statement she made about AIPAC
     
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  20. Lil Mike

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    Since Duke has supported black candidates who were anti-semites, it seems to me that the Jews are his biggest issue. I'm perplexed why this is so complicated for you.
     
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    1. While it is true that Duke endorsed Charles Barrons, who is black, the opposition he was running against was Hakeem Jeffries

    This guy (also worth noting, Hakeem Jeffries is Muslim, while Charlies Barrons is protestant Christian)
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    2. David Duke actually endorsed Charlies Barrons, however he never endorsed Ilhan Omar, he only expressed his support for a statement she made.

    3. People like David Duke prioritize national identity above everything else, which is also why people like him said they would vote for Ben Carson before they would vote for Ted Cruz. They didn't like Ted Cruz because he was born in Canada, and therefore saw him as a greater threat to their ideology on national identity (hence why they're called nationalists)

    4. Ilham Omar is a refugee, who supports a foreign policy which accepts more people like her into the country. David Duke does not believe these people should be allowed into the country at all.. not to mention being allowed to hold office

    duh
     
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    "While it is true that Duke endorsed Charles Barrons, who is black..."

    I think my job is nearly done. You wouldn't have been able to write this when we started this. In addition...

    FORMER KKK LEADER DAVID DUKE ENDORSES TULSI GABBARD 2020 PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN, SAYS SHE'LL PUT AMERICAN INTERESTS OVER ISRAEL
     
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    You're failing to understand the basis of the nationalist ideology, and I see you're having no issues finding articles of Duke endorsing other candidates, yet you can't seem to find anything on Duke endorsing Ilham Omar

    Gee, I wonder why that is
     
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  24. Lil Mike

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    I'm wondering if you are using the term "endorse" to mean making a statement supporting her re-election, or are you using the broader sense, to support her statements? I've used the term support, not endorse, for most of this thread, so I find it mind boggling that you refuse to accept Duke's own words supporting her. AS far as Duke's "nationalist ideology," no I don't know much about it and I suspect you don't either. You are simply embarressed at being proven wrong. Until you can find a statement of Duke disavowing Omar, I'll just take Duke at his word that when he says he supports her, he means he supports her, instead of whatever you are trying to say.
     
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    I think the real reason why some conservatives and independents would have had a problem voting for Ted Cruz was the intent of the 14th Amendment and also the original definition of "natural born citizen" which is based upon Natural Law that "children follow the conditions of their fathers."

    Ted Cruz's father was a Cuban national, a Cuban citizen at the time of birth of little Teddy.
    Ted's mother was a U.S. citizen but so was Winston Churchill's mother.
    Ted Cruz was born in Canada and Canada has this thing called English Common Law.

    So what about Barack Obama ?

    If Obama were have been born in the same year as I was, Obama would not be a Natural Born Citizen.
    Somebody messed with the Constitution and it's not nice to **** with the U.S. Constitution.
     

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