Trump on Pace to Do What Obama Couldn’t

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  1. sawyer

    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump's doing everything possible with a Congress on both sides of the aisle trying to derail his presidency. If we can ever force the Republicans to cooperate the sky's the limit.
     
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    When you use racist terms to describe your fellow members of the human race, it can be safely assumed that you may be not be the brightest bulb on the porch and unlikely to be winning any Darwin tests:

    "Clever" Scheduling:

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    Suffice to say, clearly not a genius.
     
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    sawyer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nice try but in economics when you talk about GDP it's a given you are talking about annual growth and quarters are considered a blip. Once again Obama is the only president in history and that includes post recession and depression presidents never to attain 3% GDP. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to repeat it, I just love saying that.

    Here's a little more info for you Obama lovers.

    "GDP growth: Under President Obama, annual economic growth from 2010 through the first three quarters of 2016 averaged 2.1 percent. This is sluggish by historical standards. From 1982 through 2009, real GDP growth averaged 2.8 percent per year, even when including the steep recessions of 1982 and 2008-09 and two milder downturns in between. The president’s economic team can talk all day about growth that is “robust and widely shared,” but 2 percent growth is subpar.

    This below-average record comes despite a cumulative $7 trillion in deficit spending during the Obama years. And it compares unfavorably to almost all other post-war recoveries, which typically exhibit above average growth. More than any other indicator, 2.1 percent GDP growth is the ultimate source of the dissatisfaction most Americans express about the economy today"

    http://www.realclearmarkets.com/art..._disappointing_but_not_a_disaster_102493.html
     
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    We need to roll some heads:

    We have a 150 elected Republicans at the national level with a Liberty Score of "F". These folks need primary opponents.

    https://www.conservativereview.com/scorecard?chamber=&state=&party=R

    My Rep scores an 88% which is a solid B+, what's your's score?
     
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    The National Labor Participation Rate continues to increase as people fall out of the work force.

    We are nearing 100 million.

    Where are Trump's plans?
     
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    Under Trump, the crime rate falls

    Is it the self-deportation of so many illegal aliens?

    Is it the rise in full-time jobs?

    Is it realization that for the first time in eight years, law enforcement has a friend inside 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?

    This too will drive GDP so hard that in comparison the hapless useless Obama will be laughed at by historians.
     
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    That's why such Reps in the GOP are notifying they won't run again.

    23 of them are in districts that Clinton took. Their days are numbered.
     
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    Locked up in Congress
     
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    Tell him to work more with the dems and Ryan will swing his mainstream behind those plans, if he can ditch the Freedom Caucus.
     
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    Looks like the GOP majority is fairly secure:

    https://www.270towin.com/2018-house-election/
     
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    Clever Photoshop
     
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    Just another right-wing ignorant post. Like I said and you can't get through your skull is financial collapse as always recovers slowly.
     
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    Which did not take into account that GOP reps in blue and purple districts are increasingly vulnerable to the center.
     
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    Indeed. I can understand those who question the President's actual impact on the economy demanding specific decisions, Executive Orders, Agency determinations and explicit regulations, it is difficult to identify exactly what the president does and how that directly affects the economy, but one can sense Trump is clearly more pro-business than his predecessor and this evidently has some effect:
    Before one dismisses these people as deluded optimists, do note they are people with over $10k invested in the Stock Market, they have been thusly invested for some time, have diversified portfolios, monitor the market, consider unemployment and inflation, in other words these aren't "innocent" or unaware, they are better educated about what is going on in the economy than most of us here. Evidently they think the economy is in better shape under Trump, they never had as optimistic a view while Obama was at the helm.
     
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    Yes it does. Hit the link.
     
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    Actually the recovery after "financial collapse" varies, sometimes government policies help stimulate faster recoveries, the recovery after the "housing bubble" burst was inordinately slow, in fact it was the slowest on record. Many think this had something to do with government policies, lefties usually promote Keynesian policies to stimulate economies in recession.
     
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    So your position is Obama had the worst economic recovery in US history because he came to power during the worst economy in US history. OK, you just go with that. LOL
     
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    The links says nothing of the sort.

    In fact, it enforces that conservatives in blue and purple districts are vulnerable in the next election.
     
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    No, many do not think any such thing.
     
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    Yes it did. Even if Dems take every toss up, which I doubt, they will still be well short of a majority.

    http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/2018-house/
     
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    If they take every toss up, they will have a majority of seven or eight. Check your stats again.
     
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    Get snarky all you want, if Obama did so well......the Democrats would be controlling right now wouldn't they.
     
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    Sabato’s Crystal Ball says there are 12 Republican and 3 Democrat Congressmen in “toss-up districts. If all toss-ups were won by Democrats, they’d pick up 15 seats.
    (248 minus 192 is 56)

    Democrats need to prevail over Republicans in 41 more districts, 15 of which Sabato says “lean Republican” (the other 26 they need are described as “likely Republican”).

    It doesn't seem to me such a sure thing Democrats will win a majority in Congress in 2018 (no matter how awful Trump is).
     
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    So you post some crap I show you're wrong and you go off in a different direction typical right winger
     

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