Trump Overcomes 92% Negative Reporting

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  1. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    No the answer is in both cases a Yes ...

    Breitbart is nothing else the righty BS counterpart to the lefty BS Voltairenet or the Russian Propaganda BS Sputnik ...
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Apparently you are one of them. He taunts and pulls your chain and you respond.
    The guy is a genius at manipulation of the lefties.
     
  3. Mandelus

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    Because I am atheist ...and in my country a conservative ... I can do such things and laugh about! :-D
     
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    I don't know of those. Breitbart might be comparable to Huffpost, here in the USA.
     
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    Obama was a failure kept afloat by false positive reporting.
    Trump is a success overcoming false negative reporting.
     
  6. Mandelus

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    Check them out ... and compare them to Breitbart. Tell me then to a topic who is writing the correct issue now ... ;-)

    If you complain CNN and whatever MSM, then you must complain Breitbart too out of the same reason! ;-)
     
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    No they do not. If they only reported what trump says, they could not try to mold opinion. But they always comment, and it is always negative.

    To think MSM does not try to mold opinion, manufacture consent is a total disconnect from reality. The only way anyone could think contrary, is for them to have the audio shut off completely. So one wonders how any intellect could listen and watch MSM and not see the self evident of what they are trying to do, and have tried to do since he won. ha ha
     
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    I would rather pay tariffs and employ more americans making these slave labor goods than exploiting the poor of the world for their labor so you can save a few bucks on the newest widget. But where democrats did not want to exploit the poor, they have become GOPhers and love doing it these days. And unlike the old democrats, they have not trouble sleeping at night by this overt exploitation. Democrats? Hell no! Neoliberal globalist slave labor capitalists. So I left the party because of this.
     
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    The things that I like most about Breitbart is that they report stories that the corporate media ignore, and that they offer a counterbalancing perspective.

    In my version of a perfect world, I shouldn't be able to detect a reporter's bias (because there wouldn't be any in the report); and, unless there is a major event, they wouldn't all report on the same stories, in the same order, with the same one-sided viewpoint.
     
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    No. I admit to it, but I don't complain about it. I am, after all, on that side of things.

    I don't mind if other people complain about Breitbart's bias. But that is not what people, in the USA, usually do. They normally slander Breitbart with false accusations of being "white-supremacist". So, possibly I was overly sensitive when I responded to your post.
     
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  11. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    My 92 yo dad will comment on something he heard on TV... "Boy, ole Trump is in trouble now!" I always respond with, "Been watching CNN, dad?" The answer is always YES.

    Reminds me of lefty threads on pf. How many "He's finally gone too far" threads on this forum? And yet he's still winning. ;)
     
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    Ok then.....
     
  13. One Mind

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    As I have said countless times, I did not vote for the man. I do not like his manners, nor his personality. And I was a sanders voter. And yet I fully support ANYTHING he can do in representing the working american, of all races. And having listened to many of his campaign speeches, it was no surprise that the "forgotten" and "cast aside" americans voted for both trump and sanders. For the same reasons, IMO.

    So I have no illusions nor delusions that trump is our president due to racism of his voters. His voters, like the sander's voters, perceived reality, in that they had been cast aside by both political parties, with the greatest insult coming from the democratic party, the party of working people, up until clinton and the tremendous change in the democratic party, when it comes to working and middle class americans. And I have been saying for a decade or more that these americans would eventually wake up to what both parties were, and do something about it. That explains the support of sanders and trump, and nothing else does that, based upon reality. And this connect to what was actually going on in america is why I called the election for trump, once the democrats and DNC helped to beat sanders, with dirty tricks with a complicit MSM. I made that prediction here on this forum, and is now internet record.

    For when you are not a blind partisan, and can actually observe what is going on in this nation, that trump would win, against hillary was a great bet to place, to place your money. And I did, and won that bet, even against the MSM, the pundits and the polling.

    I have seen the tact MSM took, along with the losers, and it is self evident what their goal is. Anyone who has a half arse objective brain cell, or is honest intellectually can also see this, for it is as self evident as any reality can be. And both camps have worked their arses off in trying to achieve this very nefarious goal, as they resort to utter blindness and stupidity, in trying to achieve that political goal. So, to deny what MSM has tried to do, and to call what they are doing journalism is just as bad as what they have worked hard to do to trump, and to his voters. And I am not one of his voters. And yet if I can discern some actual gains by working americans, then trump will have done what no president has done for these americans since JFK or perhaps even LBJ. If trump can actually, via new trade deals bring back some manufacturing, and it is evidenced, I will have to vote for him, no matter how much I despise his personality and mannerisms. But such things have no importance for me, for all that matters to me, a very serious voter and prior democrat, is if unlike past presidents, trump actually does work for the working and middle class american, in some manner which is beneficial to those people. Plus, if he ends up not being an utter war mongering neocon, that is another reason to cast my vote for a republican and not vote 3rd party. For he will have done something no president has done since JFK and perhaps LBJ and actually attempted to represent those people that the democrats not only turned their backs on, but have kicked in the groin, at every opportunity they have had to do so.

    And so, given what I stand for, my beliefs, if trump delivers, or it looks like he has tried to deliver on behalf of working americans, the salt of america, I will have little aversion to vote for the man next time. And I could give a rat's arse about his personality and ways of talking and communicating. I do not vote on personality, but on the issues that affect other americans like me. And if a president tries to keep the promises given while campaigning. Generally in more recent history these people always develop amnesia when it comes to keeping promises to working americans and middle class americans.

    When I listen to trump's campaign speeches, I did not hear the normal GOPher, not at all. And neither did his supporters, which is a main reason they voted for him in enough numbers to put him into the oval office. And this is the same reason sanders got the votes that he did, causing the democrats and DNC to try to destroy him, with tremendous help from MSM.

    So sure, I speak out in favor of trump, while not voting for him, but what drives that is the utter dishonesty and hypocrisy coming from the losers, including MSM. And the hate driven rhetoric that also demands a total lack of concern for working americans that neither party has represented, with some of the democrats even calling these good, hard working americans, deplorable, simply because they had to vote for a man who promised them representation, that they had not received in DC for many decades. Frankly it pisses me off, the deceit involved with democrats, who even the voters could not care less about working and middle class americans. And given that the DP once at least tried to represent these people, on principle alone, and no longer do, insures I cannot vote for this party, given the treason that have committed in regards to the very people they once did represent and stood up for. Until Bill Clinton took that party into the scheme of economic globalism, costing working americans their jobs, their standards of living and an attempt to create optimum income disparity in favor of the top dogs, their donors.

    Perot tried to tell these democrats what free trade actually was, and it was not about trade, but offhshoring the economy that helped to create the largest middle class in the history of the world, right here in the USA. And the democrats were too stupid to see the self evident. Once Clinton helped to change the DP, the democrats like me who did not leave the party, stopped caring about working americans, and began to think as if they were in the upper one percent, while not being there. When one is not an elite but thinks like one, this is a means test for stupidity, IMO.
     
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    The few who got tax cuts ........ doesn't realize the deductions that were taken away or the Huge Tax increase due to Trumps Tariffs
     
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    Considering the onslaught of negativity from every angle, the fact anyone likes him is a win. Pick up nearly any newspaper or magazine and he's being blasted. Watch late night TV? Blasted. Watch an awards show? Blasted. Sitting at an airport with CNN on almost exclusively? BLASTED!!! Comedy Central? Blasted! HBO? Blasted! Watch morning news? Blasted. Watch evening news? Blasted.

    Unless you watch FOX or OAN or listen to AM radio, all you hear is how horrible he is, how horrible Conservatives are, how horrible republicans are and how horrible a shape our country is in, until Trump is voted out or impeached.

    It really is quite phenomenal or disturbing depending on your outlook.
     
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    You have your mask on backwards :)
    However
    Clearly you didn't choose to credit him with anything positive, just as the left and their leftist outlets you only speak to his faults :) Really, how obvious could you have made it?
     
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    Spot on, Woman.
    I wonder how many people have considered how much more might be getting done if there were not so many people trying to block progress as some kind of get-even for their election loss. It's really stupid to sabotage your own nations progress, thinking you are harming only those you dislike.
     
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    Depends on what you call positive. There are some points with in the ACA that were good. But most of it has been useless. And he lied about all of it, with proof from the people who wrote it. As a man Obama was very dignified. However, he played identity politics every second he was in office, which set back race relations. He made statements like "time for you to sit in the back of the bus", and got away with it. He won a stupid Nobel Peace prize for doing absolutely NOTHING. He was praised for accomplishing very little. And he's trying to take credit for anything good that's happening now, while he made excuses for everything bad that he inherited;) He started making men feel bad for being male. Make us feel guilty for doing nothing wrong.

    Yet Democrats sit on their hands when you can't argue with numbers. Positive Records and they can't bring themselves to say that its a GOOD thing. Its pathetic. They truly would rather the country crumble so they could say TOLD YA SO. They WANT US TO FAIL, so people will vote for them. Its insidious.
     
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    I do want him to succeed. I have no hatred for the President, but I will call him out when he makes churlish and opprobrious comments. I’m happy that my tax burden is lowered under him. However, he did not address deficit reduction as a priority.
     
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    No one, certainly not me, advocated any sort of censorship or changes to freedom of speech in the U.S., rather the removal of protections such as the "actual malice" standard from ideological outlets that fail to be objective and hide real defamation behind NYT v Sullivan.

    Oh, the only people with "dementia" are those who attempt to draw a false equivalence between U.S. MSM treatment of Obama and Trump. As a matter of irrefutable fact, and not opinion, the MAINSTREAM media outlets in the U.S., including the big three networks, two of the big news networks, and all the big blue city newspapers, gave Obama a ten year blowjob. FACT. I don't know the exact percentage of positive coverage of the Obama Administration in U.S. MSM, but it likely approaches the reverse of Trump's 90% negative coverage.
     
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    Would that be "Much more often then when he has done good :)". Sure reads that way!
     
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    He has accomplished may positives, but the left cant hold down the front by acknowledging them.. Sad group of people that would rather see the country fail as rather that swallow their pride and get behind a obvious improvement(s) under Trump :(
     
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    that 92% negative stuff Trump does is why no one Trust the Trump admin

    if Trump would stop doing so much stupid idiotic stuff the media has to report on.. there would be less negative press
     
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    MSM. The gift that keeps on giving to Trump.
     
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    Fact? Go back into your own and remember correctly about the impudent shitstorm whcih Obama earned by the righty troll movements in media and politics!

    Anyway ... another fact is that the shitstorm on Trump and these 92% are well reasoned, because by fact Trump did and tells so much BS! It is simply unbelievable that only a single American still holds on this jerk. If this dumbass tells and declares that from now on 1+1 is 11 because this makes America Great again etc., they will believe and follow him!
     

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