Trump said that he has no recordings of talks with FBI ex-director Comey

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  1. ThorInc

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    I think you will find out ;).
     
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    Try not to be too disappointed.
     
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    You completely miss the point. Comey wasn't under oath when Trump tweeted, "you better hope I don't have a recording". Twas a preemptive strike to make Comey wonder if Trump has his office bugged. Comey danced around a lot of questions but I don't think he lied either. The stakes were too high if Trump had recorded him and Comey later perjured himself.
     
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    This has be one of the greatest trolls of the media in recent memory.
     
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    Comey's "leak" to the media didn't quite go according to plan. The New York Times didn't just get egg on their face, they got a fat, juicy and fresh cow patty right in their grill. :roflol:
     
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    Pre-emptive strikes, like Trump's tweet, can be considered witness intimidation.

    There is absolutely no reason to believe Comey was going to lie under oath. He's a former prosecutor and fully aware of the consequences of lying under oath. Even you don't believe he lied. There's no reason to believe that he only told the truth because Trump tweeted some nonsense, either. Comey's lifelong reputation is that he is a straight shooter. That didn't change because Trump is in the White House. It only "changed" when it suited partisan excuse making.

    The stakes were equally high for Trump, if Comey's statement had been corroborated by any tape. Stakes were higher for Trump, if he had taped Comey, because subpoenas would have been issued for any other tapes Trump might have… like with Michael Flynn.

    Look back at how long it took Trump to come up with an excuse for why he tweeted and to come clean with the American people about the tapes. 41 Days. Why did it take him 41 days to clarify what he meant? It didn't take Comey 41 days to clarify what he meant. One was under oath. The other, a proven liar, took 41 days to clarify what he meant in a bullying tweet. I believe Comey. You're free to believe whomever you wish.
     
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    The Russian tampering he was first told about in October of last year but insisted didn't happen and he didn't know about it until Friday?
     
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    Missing or not existing tapes of recorded talks in Oval Office... remembers me to something, but what was it again? :-D
     
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    And neither do I.

    You heard what a prolific liar said and you made up your mind. I heard what a prolific liar said and I made up my mind. I wonder which one of us made the right decision.
     
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    41 days? It bought a little over a month of an insurance policy that Comey would be forced to tell the truth. Everyone knows how long these inquisitions into the rabbit hole take. The wheels of government turn slowly if at all. It is nothing but pure logic that if Trump knows the truth will protect him, he's going to get in Comey's head and make him wonder what proof has in his back pocket that he can present as evidence if Comey decides to take liberties with what actually happened. That's not intimidation, its standing back with arms crossed holding a hammer.
     
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    If Comey told the truth as he did under oath, then with the timeline and accuracy verified with contemporaneous notes and the knowledge of specific people he shared those notes with on the same time. Trump is done if the GOP congress acts for country first.
     
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    Translation: You've lost all hope. Not only is conspiracy just pipe dream of the past but absence of obstruction is next on your list of disappointments. :roflol:
     
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    Don't fear the inevitable like Trump is right now. Mueller is on it.
     
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    How many times is Lucy going to yank the ball away from you Charlie Brown? It's getting old winning this much. :roflol:
     
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    And where are the recordings again? Comey simply buried Trump.
     
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    I'll take that as an inability to counter the points made. Comey gave Mueller everything he needs to finish the crooks in the WH off.
     
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    It seems to me that this issue is viewed through very different lenses by some Trump supporters and everyone else. Even Richard Burr said Trump's tweet was inappropriate. My experience is only the staunchest of Trump supporters continue to defend the tweet, and do so for partisan purposes. The tweet bought Trump nothing, except the appointment of a Special Counsel.

    Here's the question Trump hasn't answered yet… Trump supposedly "lost confidence" in Comey, so he fired him over pressure in the Russia investigation. Why did Trump lose confidence in Comey, all of a sudden? For what reason would Trump believe Comey would lie? Comey hadn't been known to lie before. His lifelong reputation was being a patriot and a stickler for the rules. Comey's resentment over Loretta Lynch asking him to call the Clinton investigation a "matter" is evidence of that. It took some nerve to throw Loretta Lynch under the bus in that hearing, but shows Comey calls it like he sees it. Trump kept him as FBI Director, when he could have replaced him in January, and told him he was doing a good job repeatedly. The only logical reason for Trump to have "lost confidence" in Comey is that Comey didn't do what Trump "hoped" he would do, when they "had that thing."
     
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    Trump had every right to fire Comey. Like Judas, 3 times the c o c k crowed. 3 times Comey told Trump he wasn't under investigation, but wouldn't announce this publicly. That's all it would have taken, to announce Trump was not currently under investigation. That's a simple request to ask Comey to state the current facts at hand so end all of the fake news diverting attention away from Presidential initiatives. Comey refused to do it, and paid the price.
     
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    Yes, Trump had the authority to fire Comey, just as Nixon had the authority to fire Archibald Cox. It's not whether he had the authority or not. It goes to the reason behind the firing. If he fired Comey for not doing what he was told in regards to the investigation, then Trump obstructed justice, just as Nixon did.

    Comey testified under oath as to why he wouldn't say publicly that Trump wasn't under investigation. The reason was simple: timing. Trump was going to come under investigation eventually. Almost everyone understands that. The investigation was into Trump's campaign, and Trump, most assuredly, was part of his own campaign. Therefore, Trump would be under investigation… your Judas example aside. However, if Trump, as you imply, fired Comey because he wouldn't publicly announce that Trump wasn't under investigation at that time, it doesn't agree with what Trump said in a televised interview with Lester Holt, nor in the transcript of the Russian Oval Office meeting with the Russian ambassador. Trump plainly said he fired Comey over the Russian investigation.

    So, we have Trump "losing confidence" in Comey, that the FBI losing confidence in Comey, that Comey was too mean to Hillary, that Comey didn't speak publicly about Trump not being under investigation at the time, and that the Russian investigation was putting pressure on Trump, all as potential reasons why Trump fired Comey. Multiple answers means someone is lying, and it's not Comey.

    If Trump fired Comey for the Russian investigation and tweeted to Comey to influence his testimony, Trump obstructed justice, an impeachable offense, just like Nixon firing Archibald Cox obstructed justice. Playing cute put Trump in a hole, but it is a hole he dug all by himself.
     
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    It was a Chess move, and a darn good one.
     
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    If Comey told the truth under oath and didn't report the "obstruction" immediately to the DOJ, he's just indicted himself for a crime.
     
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    Which all intertwined and which Comey told Trump 3 times he wasn't under investigation for but wouldn't publicly announce it. No request for lies to be told there, grounds to fire. One more time, very slowly............Trump tweeted Comey in no uncertain terms, that he better tell the truth, there might have been eyes and ears otherwise. Motivating Comey to tell the truth, short of torture, isn't a crime in any US court.
     
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    We're not going to find any agreement on this subject. Also, here is no need for you to insult my intelligence with your "very slowly" comment.

    I'm going to bookmark this conversation though, and revisit it when the investigation is complete.
     
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    Yes, it will bury Trump.
     
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