Trump says ‘Fake News’ pushing ‘major confrontation’ with Russia

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  1. Pycckia

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    The Left, a wholly owned subsidiary of global capitalism, is intent on the subjugation of Russia. Such a policy might very well lead to war.
     
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    They were here then and now.
     
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    NATO has not been destroyed, Trump is in the process of adjusting the agreements and the load of maintaining it. The EU is getting a reality check.
     
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    Link please that anyone wants war. If not, quit talking out of your ass.
     
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    Maintaining it? WTF? No one gets a bill for NATO! When are you lemmings going to realize that trump is feeding you a load of bullshit?
     
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    You are looking at one facet of the full blown propaganda program to convince the public that the upcoming altercation with Russia is warranted. I know that the Syrian farce has been downplayed of late by a sane administration, but it was very hairy at points. Also, we still have major sanctions against Russia.

    There has been an all out effort to prevent Trump from improving relations with Russia.
     
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    Of course NATO is not destroyed, yet. Trump by screaming openly about spending increases that was agreed to to under Bush and reaffirmed under Obama like he did hurt thecalliance. Then he makes fun of not wanting to support Montenegro if they are attacked is not exactly healthy. Failure to support a member state if they are attacked would destroy NATO. Do you think that Estonia or Latvia are rolling on the floor laughing at the Montenegro "joke". You know who is rolling on the floor and laughing his ass off whilevTrump is in the process of destroying our alliances- you got Trump's boss and BFF -Putin. ,in fact Putin is congratulating himself on the great job he did training another Usefull Idiot.
     
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    Since before the '16 election, I have been talking about the noticeable war drums towards Russia. I believe the overblown election tampering narrative is nothing but an attempt to prevent improved relations with Russia. This is all about money. We turned on Assad and made him a boogy man because he wouldn't allow a nat gas pipeline from our Arab "prop up the dollar" friends. Then, Putin had to protect his own nat gas economy.
     
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    SMH. You're clearly not one of the dumb posters on this forum - but it always amazes me how intelligent and critical people can fall into these conspiracy theory mind traps. Is it cognitive dissonance?
    As far as the media is concerned, there is no propaganda program period. Full stop. This is how it works: trump says stupid sh!t, contradicts himself, and comes off as a general moron. The left wing mob wants their echo chamber to confirm their biases and stoke their outrage so that is what's delivered. It's really that simple. You have the chicken before the egg - maybe cart before the horse is a better cliche. Anyway, the lamestream media, or whatever silly name you want to give it, is in the business of making $$. It's their job to deliver what the average low IQ american wants to see. And thats what they do.
     
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    Thank Joe McCARTHY ,! for alerting America to the Communist menace and the FBI for rooting out the Commie cells .

    Now we will need another Joe to root out sleeper agents of Russian SVR and GRU. The SVR is basically the replacement for the KGB and the KGB basically replaced the MGB and NKVD.

    Names changed, reorganizations occurred, but Russian spying and state security had been around since the days of the Czars and thevCommie-Czars such as Lenin.

    Russian Empire, USSR, Russian Ferderation no matter the name they are still an enemy that needs to be destroyed before they destroy us.
     
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    I'm not even referring to Trump. This was happening way back under Obama. And, sorry, but yes, I fully believe that there is certain underlying narratives that large players in the media run in order to sway public opinion. If there goal was capitalistic, they would have fully changed course about 6 or 7 years ago after planning the course change about a decade ago. They haven't. Instead, they have moved to a full blown "phone game" source approach where they parrot the message of other aligned media outlets.

    If you listen to truly liberal sources, they pretty much lay out the entire Assad diplomacy history and bash Obama the entire way. I'm not sure it's a conspiracy when you witness it first hand, and it's documented so clearly.
     
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    Oh dear, the evil is upon us.
     
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    Probably never because he isn't.
     
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    Really? What was our NATO bill last month? How much of Germany's portion did we have to cover?
     
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    Why does anyone pay attention to what this fool has to say?
     
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    lol, Trump's fake news about meaning wouldn't instead of what he said is ridiculous - why is Putin the only person Trump doesn't attack via tweets even?

    we just want Russia to stop meddling in our elections... Trump and his supporters seem to think they can't win in 2020 without Russia

    is Trump giving too much credit to Russia for helping him win?
     
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    How do I know the left isn't playing you
     
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    You mean aside from the average leftists. On the other hand perhaps leftists are simply incapable of coherently relating to the world that they do not want this nation to go to war with the Russians.
     
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    I am talking out of you?
     
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    Ask Trump, that's above my pay grade.
     
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    Trump has a talent for telling lies that could not be more opposite to the truth, I'll give him that. All the actual fake news has been trying to do is convince us that Putin did nothing wrong and that we should be buddies, so that he's not forced to bomb us with nukes.
     
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    "We have to use nuclear weapons to deescalate." The problem with this theory is that in the real world, the result of an attack would lead to hundreds possibly thousands dead, damaged infrastructure, etc. And any government that takes such an attack lying down would be immediately overthrown and the nuke war would start up again anyway.

    The only true method of deescalation has always been non-proliferation and negotiation. Trump's right on this.
     
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    Let me help you, there is no bill. How are people this uninformed?
     
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    No google?

    Highlights
    • Indirect – or national – contributions are the largest and come, for instance, when a member volunteers equipment or troops to a military operation and bears the costs of the decision to do so.
    • Direct contributions are made to finance requirements of the Alliance that serve the interests of all 29 members - and are not the responsibility of any single member - such as NATO-wide air defence or command and control systems. Costs are borne collectively, often using the principle of common funding.
    • Within the principle of common funding, all 29 members contribute according to an agreed cost-share formula, based on Gross National Income, which represents a small percentage of each member’s defence budget.
    • Common funding arrangements are used to finance NATO’s principal budgets: the civil budget (NATO HQ running costs), the military budget (costs of the integrated Command Structure) and the NATO Security Investment Programme (military capabilities).
    • Projects can also be jointly funded, which means that the participating countries can identify the requirements, the priorities and the funding arrangements, but NATO provides political and financial oversight. The funding process is overseen by the North Atlantic Council, managed by the Resource Policy and Planning Board, and implemented by the Budget Committee and the Investment Committee.
     
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    That's a pile of crap.

    The fervid and fetid attacks on President Trump and the American people who elected him took another strange turn this week when our attackers wet themselves crying treason because President Trump was diplomatic with Putin.

    Congresswoman Maxine Waters called on Democrats to hound Trump's staffs and supporters who dare show their faces in public.

    Waters said, "I have no sympathy for these people that are in this administration who know it is wrong what they're doing on so many fronts, but they tend to not want to confront this president.​

    "For these members of his Cabinet who remain and try to defend him, they're not going to be able to go to a restaurant, they're not going to be able to stop at a gas station, they're not going to be able to shop at a department store. The people are going to turn on them, they're going to protest, they're going to absolutely harass them until they decide that they're going to tell the president, 'No I can't hang with you, this is wrong, this is unconscionable, and we can't keep doing this to children.'"

    This came after three separate incidents in which Trump staffers were run out of restaurants.

    She also said God was on her side.

    This is their plan to take power. They will silence and harass critics. They thought they could be gradual in their transformation of America into a third world shithole. Since we elected Trump president, they have shoved the pedal to the floor.

    http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2018/07/treating-trump-supporters-as-subhuman.html#more

    Progs are at war with US Electorate and they are losing, big time!
     
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