Trump Says He Will Void Birthright Citizenship Law Through Executive Order

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  1. Nemesis

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    LOL
     
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    You sound bitter

    But birthright citizenship for illegal aliens has never been tested in the supreme court

    If you are an American you should be cheering this proposed change in our immigration laws
     
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    I sound correct. You sound like you don’t give a crap about our country’s laws and traditions.
     
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    I am thinking this is more of a political stunt than an actual attempt. Trump's mo seems to be to say he is going to do something and then make a show and then nothing much changes. To date the only things that Trump seems to have actually affected are China (kudos to him for that) and possibly NK although the jury is out on that. The so called NAFTA changes were either so minor not so "pro America" that Canada and Mexico both agreed to the new trade deal almost immediately and Mexico is currently run by an anti-Trump President.

    He is going to sign and executive order and claim that he did something and then it will be shot down in the courts and then he will blame its failure on everyone else but himself.
     
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    No one is advocating repealing the 14th amendment and are instead advocating that it be interpreted to mean what the drafters intended it to mean.
     
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    In that case you have nothing to worry about

    Go back to sleep

    What trump has done is challenge a comfortable liberal advantage and force the left to defend open borders and come-one-come-all immigration policy
     
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    Actually only one parent needs to be a citizen.
     
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    Laws can be changed by congress and the president

    And thats what needs to be done to the birthright citizenship loophole
     
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    Agreed

    But for the sake of our country at least one should be
     
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    Tested? You mean to see if it is Constitutional 8)
     
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    The text is clear, so a Constitutional amendment would be required. This same issues comes up from time to time from both parties, so I wonder why they dont just get the ball rolling. There are valid arguments to amend it like "birthright tourists" from China, Russia and other countries, and the border hoppers of course.
     
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    Again, Congress cannot amend the Constitution on its own my uninformed chum.

    You’d know this if you had attended civics classes or had gone through naturalization classes.
     
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    Trump Says He Will Void Birthright Citizenship Law Through Executive Order
    First of all, no President has the right or authority or power to do this thru Executive Order. But beyond that, IF a President were successful in passing such a thing, it's a small step from declaring children of illegals as non-citizens to declaring children of one's political opponents as non-citizens. Abuse of power usually comes in small steps, that are cloaked in emotional issues.
     
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    Your post shows how completely you've drunk the Cool-Aid. Some conservatives have hated liberals so long they've forgotten that liberals are patriots who love their country too. Sad. :(
     
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    Mebbe he will do the USA a favor by having his own family (including himself) deported.
     
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    Like I said, hopefully, this will mean that Trump and his family will be deported.
     
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    This whole thing about Trump threatening to cancel the birthright citizenship law through executive order is nothing more than propaganda. It's simply not happening.

    One of the very first things Trump talked about after descending the escalator in Trump Tower, one of the first things he did was talk about alleged rapists and murderers coming across the border from Mexico. His current trafficking in these sorts of fears and issues really is nothing new, but it's the foundation of his political career. Issues such as illegal immigration should absolutely be addressed but it's being used is as a political tool, and that's just not going to solve anything.

    We need to separate the politics from the substance. Some think that we should enforce the laws, secure the borders and that we should have an orderly process. Of course, that's only logical. I and most liberals absolutely believe that and want that. But we should expect more from our leaders and especially from our president. Using race and immigration as propaganda tools is something both sides are doing instead of working together to find equitable solutions. Race and immigration issues are proven to work as a base motivator particularly for non-college educated people in red states and that's precisely why it's working for Trump's base before the midterms.
     
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    Its just what you think you see

    Only 5 demigods in black robes know for sure and they aint said yet

    Btw,we are both just repeating ourselves now

    Tiz so!

    Tiz not!!!

    Tiz so!!!!!!
     
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    There was a time when the father had to be the citizen.

    Winston Churchill's mother was an American citizen.
     
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    Its just a law that congress can change without having to touch the Constitution

    But thats just my opinion the same as what you day is only your opinion

    We will have to see what the high court says which has the only opinion that counts
     
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    It would be interesting if 5 guys in robes declared that the Constitution is not Constitutional :applause:

    After that they can introduce new Constitution which is a collection of Trumps EOs and Tweets.
     
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    He was the greatest gift America ever gave to Great Britain
     
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    It would not even be worth the bandwidth to post the news here
     
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    That the illegals brought here from Africa should become citizens and their children who were born here?
     
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    Trump Says He Will Void Birthright Citizenship Law Through Executive Order
    Has anyone taken the time or effort to imagine how this Executive Order could potentially affect the children born here? It is commonly accepted around the world, that citizenship is automatically applied to someone based on where they were born. If Trump removes the citizenship of these newborn Americans, what country can they claim to be citizens of when they mature? What country would accept them, since internationally, they would be regarded as "American." Is Trump's knee-jerk response to these newborn "Americans" really a valid solution? Or should any solution also take into consideration how it will affect the lives of these innocent infants? Is Trump's America becoming the most uncompassionate nation on the planet? Is that what Trumpsters call "making America great again"? That's not a very attractive distinction to me.
     

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