Trump says US Steel is opening 6 new plants. That’s news to US Steel!

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  1. LafayetteBis

    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Spot on!

    Why was nobody surprised when videos of the robot car painting machines first came out in Detroit? That was in the latter half of the last century.

    Did we not see the handwriting on the wall with that technology?

    From here: The History of Robotics in the Automotive Industry
    Excerpt:
    Wakey, wakey! It's going to get even worse for manufacturing manual labor*! Go to school - learn how to manage robots in manufacturing! And get a job ... !

    *PS: And the end-result will be that robotics will help bring manufacturing back to America! As well as help maintain total car market-prices. (To compensate, the Japanese are already moving car-manufacturing to India.)
     
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    What about zombies? Trump followers.
     
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    LafayetteBis Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah, what about them.

    Trump lost the popular-vote for PotUS by a significant margin - so from the get-go he was not that "convincingly elected". And, for the most part he keeps more-or-less around the same rating. Which means Americans still have not seen through the sham.

    But the sham exists, and Putin is a central part of it. And it is all in the public-domain. Read about the Steele Dossier and the "Pee Tape" here.

    And, while your at it, here's why Donald Dork hates the owner of the WashPo: Inside Trump’s financial ties to Russia and his unusual flattery of Vladimir Putin

    All lies, lies, lies?

    Yeah, right. Donald Dork is as pure-white as the driven snow ...
     
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    Melania is a prog? LOL
     
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    She probably didn't understand what it meant. Its like the Singaporean fad of the early 1980s where women would wear a t shirt like the one with the inscription "the coal man dropped a load on my p***y with a picture of a cat under a pile of coal".
     
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    Its almost like..there is..a coincidence between computers, computer power, technology, robotics and manufacting employment....
     
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    Not only manufacturing employment. Services have been heavily invested with "computer toys-for-the-boyz-'n-girlz" as well.

    Some job-facts (from the Bureau of Labor Statistics here):
    *Manufacturing accounts for barely 8% of the jobs in the US, whilst Services has more than 80%
    *From 2006 to 2016, Services Industries added 10.6 million jobs, whilst Manufacturing lost 736-thousand.
    *The three-stars of employment change (meaning jobs added in the decade 2006-to-2016 by a given industry-sector):
    -Health care and social assistance
    -Professional and business services
    -Leisure and hospitality
    *Non-agriculture self-employed lost 780k jobs from 2006-to-2016 and the sector now employs 5.6% of all employment. (However, the prevision out to 2026 for the sector is stable at 5.6%)

    But those working in the Information Services sector of the economy are a tiny percentage of the total (2%).
    .
     
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    Even the service industries are under pressure form technology.
    My golf club just got tablets for the kitchen and wait staff. Saves one trip a table.
    I noticed Olive Garden has a little gadget on each table that you can use for everything from the order thru the payment. I assume there is still a cook,:) and of course someone brings the food out.
    But the Trumpsters don't bother with that problem they just want to bring back garment manufacturing.
    I'm thinking about getting my wife a job making Barbie doll clothes for Walmart.
     
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    Like!

    They've got their collective heads up their you-know-what. If we do nothing at the mid-terms, it will only get worse.

    We should cut his you-know-whats off, and that could happen at the mid-terms in the HofR. (Which is what THEY did to Obama in 2009.)

    We, the sheeple, need only get off our backsides spectating like couch-potatoes and into the voting-booths ...
     
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    And they want to do it at below minimum wage as long as they arrested not the ones being paid that pittance
     
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    HISTORY LESSON

    I doubt you can call it that.

    It started (on the manufacturing shop-floor) in the 1970s, and it has come to a head with the Chinese surge in low-cost manufacturing since the early 1990s.

    Robotics is the only way to compete with China. But, that means most of the lower end unskilled jobs are gone down the tubes. The country must react.

    History Lesson: I'm from central-Massachusetts where the sun-glass industry literally started post-WW2. There were plastics-shops all over the place that employed locals to fit the parts together creating product. All those are gone, Long gone, it started in the 1970s - they skedaddled to the south of the US, then Mexico and finally the Far East.

    Look, boyz-'n-grilz, it is nothing new. The world has been progressing in exactly this manner for a great long time. Let's just meet the challenge right, by allowing our people to prepare themselves properly.

    And that means very low-cost Tertiary Education fees (by subsidizing state-schools) that gets the 45% of our kids who graduate high-school but DO NOT GET A POST-SECONDARY DEGREE to finally attain one.

    It's the only way to meet the challenge that is squarely before us as a nation ...

    PS: Do you really think Donald Dork gives a damn? Not in the least. He is meeting with Putin in a few weeks, and just you watch. His kids will start building a Trump Tower/Hotel in Moscow this year. (He's been wanting to do so for a long long time.)
    PPS: This guy can't see beyond his nose, and when he does it's all about me-me-me!
     
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    All the more reason to raise the Minimum Wage to (at the very least) the Poverty Threshold level, and institute a national Low-income Minimum Subsistence Payment:
    *The Minimum Wage should be $25K a year (for a a family of four), and that translates directly into $12 an hour. And it should be universal - all states!

    *A Low-income Subsistence Assistance could take the form of a minimum income allowed by the government to all who do not have a job and apply for the subsistence. It could be $1K a month. (Watch the number of people jailed for petty-crimes to be reduced drastically!)

    *Both of these programs require that the right people are allowed the subsistence, and not just anybody. It's time America adopted a National Identity Card based
    upon our Social Security Number, but also a DNA sample on-file.

    *This will separate the wheat-from-the-chaf, and all those wanting to enter the US will be required to request a visa first in their home-country (perhaps based upon a job available in the US). Perhaps, but otherwise they get a Visit Visa with a minimum period of stay allowed for vacationers. Beyond which they get thrown-out and put on a list that prevents them ever again from obtaining another Entry Visa

    *Any American company found hiring a foreigner who has entered the country without proper credentials is heavily fined for the offense.
     
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    =====
    https://shareblue.com/trump-lies-us-steel-new-plants-jobs/

    Excerpt from article above...
    But, as the Washington Post Fact-Checker reports, U.S. Steel won’t say any phone call took place. Their spokesperson told the Post, “To answer your question, we post all of our major operational announcements to our website and report them on earnings calls. Our most recent one pertained to our Granite City ‘A’ blast furnace restart.”
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    TRANSLATION

    It's very possible that the phone conversation took place, but Trump should not have revealed the company's future plans to expand as this would be like insider information that could affect stock prices. That's why there was no denial of the phone call by the spokesperson.

    Because the plans to expand facilities are not set in stone and still in the planning stages, USS can not acknowledge them at this point in time. However, when the time is right, they will post it on their website.

    So Trump did not lie, but he spoke too soon and should not have revealed USS's future plans at this time because it could affect stock prices.

    Whether you like or dislike Trump, your ability to discern truth at this point in time could translate into significant financial gains and we all like money. Right?

    So bottom line, if you believe that Trump told the truth, BUY USS STOCK NOW!!!

    Edit: After looking at the 5 year USS stock history, it might be wise to study curve and wait for the next dip before buying. It's valued relatively high right now.

    --pete--
     
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    Isn't this a bit of a no-brainer?

    Trump puts up steel import tariffs and USS starts a new production plant. Wow!

    Here's another no-brainer for you:
    *Buy USS stock NOW because the increase in value is likely to be offset by the higher-cost of steel prices for America's producers.
    *Uh, like car-manufacturers - so the revaluation of the stock will get back the money you need to pay for a higher costing car!

    Wow! BFD ... !
     
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