Trump sends carrier to South China Sea

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  1. glloydd95

    glloydd95 Well-Known Member

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    These are two of the most blind, idiotic, devoid of thought but pregnant with partisan anger comment stupidity since Obama won his second term. Gentleman, it is a low bar indeed you have slithered under.
     
  2. Questerr

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    Should we instead accept the claims of one of the other powers in the dispute, ALL OF WHICH are involved in the same kinds of illegal actions (dredging new islands, militarizing islands, and claiming territory outside of their EEZ) China is?

    Which of these factions do we side with? The communist dictatorship in Vietnam, the Islamist state in Indonesia, or the government-sanctioned murder gang state in the Philippines?

    Our action should be to stay out of it (except for continuing to enforce free passage) and let international courts or regional powers take care of it. When people start shooting, then we can get involved.
     
  3. Dayton3

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    When people start shooting it is generally way too late....
     
  4. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    So instead, which side should we pick? Every side in the dispute is violating international law, every side has a government that is abhorrent to the Constitution. So which one should we be on?
     
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    Yup! No wonder Obama's foreign policy was a disaster.
     
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    Wow , what a mess your kenyan king left mr. Trump . Don't be scared , Trump will fix it.
     
  7. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    The side of the Phillipines. Which was America's only true colony and one we have an obligation to defend.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The UK's Royal Navy is sending their new big super aircraft carrier to the South China Sea as soon as it's combat capable.

    War clouds have been forming over the western Pacific ever since 2009.

    http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/features/equipped-for-the-future



     
  9. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    So we should side with a country who has expelled our military, conducts extrajudicial murder of its citizens, and is doing all of the same illegal actions that China is?
     
  10. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    I guarantee that Filipino interests more closely align with ours than those of the Chinese.

    So the answer is yes.
     
  11. Questerr

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    Just like how the interests of Nazi Germany aligned with ours more than the Soviet Union, so we should have sided with the Nazis, right?

    A tiny incremental difference doesn't matter. We are still picking sides in a fight where EVERYONE is wrong.
     
  12. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    So. Sometimes you don't have the option of waiting for a side populated by saints. Its in the overall interests of the United States to restrict the growth and application of Chinese power in the region.
     
  13. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I hope it was Trump but believe this is just a normal Navy mission.

    Your link shows this.
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/19/us/us-carrier-south-china-sea/index.html

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    Did you claim that when Obama sent carriers to the South China Sea?

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/19/us/us-carrier-south-china-sea/index.html
     
  14. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A routine mission to the South China Sea is now called the Hitler set fire? OMG

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    This continues the Obama policy. I am shocked Democrats don't understand that.
     
  15. Ronstar

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    Obama was born in the USA, not Kenya.

    let go of the ODS
     
  16. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sorry, but its a fact that Trump is a Hitler-wannabe bigot.
     
  17. Questerr

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    So what is the utterly pressing circumstance that forces us to be involved right now, right now, RIGHT NOW, and prevents us from waiting?
     
  18. nra37922

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    Now that's funny.. :roflol:
    Right up there with the fact that Obama is a Kenyan Muslim.
     
  19. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ^^^^^^ Fake News
     
  20. Thehumankind

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    I think it do have a Pentagon's blessing sending the naval strike group there,
    by the way they only have to patrol the "disputed water", not really the Chinese waters.
     
  21. Dayton3

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    No offense but only idiots think that.
     
  22. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    It is always better to send a message as early as possible before things advance, positions harden, posturing intensifies, nations go too far to back down.
     
  23. Questerr

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    So it's better for us to pick a side now when everyone in the dispute is conducting illegal actions than to wait until it's even likely that fighting to occur?
     
  24. Dayton3

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    you want to wait until "fighting is likely"???

    Isn't that way too late??

    What about taking a stand early in hopes of preventing any fighting whatsoever??
     
  25. peoshi

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    Have you started building yours yet?


    Time is of the essence, the US has a ship in international waters, we can't have that!

    And you think Trump is trying to start a war?

    Damn ron, at least try to appear semi-intelligent! :roll:
     

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