Trump should NOT get credit for low black unemployment.

Nonsense we did better than Obama with out the government doing anything special at all in the 19th century.

 

Yes, so do I. Untill Blacks and greens and blues all get equal treatment under the law and wages, IT IS A CAUCASIANITY.

 

OMG, that is utter nonsense. We cant just go back to the guilded age.

 

The reason that Black programmers are rarer than hen's teeth is not due to a lack of equal treatment under the law.

 

Dude no one is suggesting we go back to the guilded age, merely that almost every president we've ever had came out of a recession and depressions with better numbers than Obama.

 

Not even close... Coolidge didn't inherit any crisis at all. And Reagan presided over the recovery of a recession much smaller than the one Obama had to deal with. We're talking of turning a 2.5 negative growth into .a 2.6 positive growth and then (the most important part) making it sustainable.

 

Well, Thats a bold strategy, i hope it goes well for you....

 

In the 19th century the Republican Party was pro-black rights, pro-education and pro-moral values. No way to compare it with today's GOP. In any case, I'm talking about pulling us out of a deep financial crisis using economic policy specifically directed to that end. Only FDR and Obama have done that.

 

Lol wtf?

Obama retarded the economy based on bs politics, not some drive to help people.

The first thing trump did was blow up every impediment to economic growth.

Thats what kick started the economy.

Obama blocked that pipe line.

Trump turned on the spicket

Obama told us to inflate our tires. The gop fracked like to tomorrow.

Obama just put up stop signs.

Trump installed express ways

 

I agree with Dark Skies- Trump is the trail blazer; we will need another to walk in his shoes to follow up.

The country quit being racial long ago. Not all the people; but the country- and that is what makes the difference. Today, a good man is seen as a good man based on his character, his values, his integrity and his performance. Everyone gets discriminated against at one time another for something- being the wrong religion, not being religious, being of the wrong political affiliation, etc. There will always be some racial discrimination, but it is no longer the systemic issue, it is individual- and still being promoted by people who are determined to prove they are discriminated against.

People- and I certainly include you- are generally myopic, or near-sighted. They fail to look far ahead, and they make poor and ill-considered choices for immediate results by demanding what appears easy right now. Invariably, the future comes- and invariably, today is the tomorrow we failed to plan for yesterday. Trump isn't working to make you happy today, and that offends a great many people. He is working for America's future 5 to 10 years and more ahead, and that is something that simply isn't recognized by the people of the left, who assume that there will always be somebody else to blame, to tax, to pay for their shortcomings.

There is far more opportunity today than at anytime in my life- and I was born before WWII. Jobs are easier, advancement is easier- everything is easier. However, the demand for "easier" has increased so widely, and the ability and willingness to be responsible for yourself has declined so substantially, that many people always think of themselves as having hard times. That is hogwash- promoted by weak people that have no idea what they are talking about.

When I was 11 years old, my parents had a small grocery business that was facing competition from new supermarkets. While they were already working long hours, dad increased the open hours of their store to 7am-9pm, 7 days a week. That means they got there at 6, left at 10- that's 16 hours a day, 7 days a week, or 112 hours a week- triple what full time employment is for most people. For three years, they maintained that schedule without a day off. My brother and I rode our bicycles to work after school to help. At that time, my mother had a condition that over the years required 26 bone operations on one leg. She was always working in bandages, and often on crutches. My father wound up with a chance to sell out without loss. My parents died leaving no debt, enough cash for mom and a nice home- and like me, never took a dime in any kind of aid, not even an unemployment check. My life has been far easier than theirs, and I've accomplished much more- because things continue to get easier, while the people who think they are entitled to the easy life do less and less but whine more and more.

Opportunity is better than ever, and available to anyone- regardless of color or most anything else. You don't measure that by what happened last week- but by where we were 50 years ago. The big picture says that everything continues to improve, for anyone willing to try.

 

"wtf" is right. "retarded the economy"? I don't know if that's some sort of deep "Economy" technical lingo, but what happened is simple:
-Worst financial crisis since Hoover
-Enter Obama
-No more financial crisis.

Whatever "retarded the economy" means, I'm sure it doesn't apply. Facts are always the definite argument.

Except the economy was already kick started. And there has been no noticeable upwards escalation in the trend since then. So facts, again, spoil your narrative.

And Trump blocked Canada! The owners of the pipe line, no less!

Trump and his cult can see no farther ahead than the next 2 weeks. And it's unavoidable that the damage the pipeline will eventually cause will outweigh any benefit to the people of the United States (regardless of any profit to the billionaires who invest in the project). However, being outside the right's attention-span time-frame, we will await until the real adults take over to stop the madness.

 

Yes, obama stood in the way of progress for bs political reasons.

The Key Stone Pipeline got approval the second Trump took office.

Heres proof, obama didnt give a damn about the suffering American people.



What a freakn joke, he even laughs when he says it.

 

As usual instead of reality we get left wing talking points. Sorry dude NO one administration in the 19th century did much of anything to fix the half dozen or so depressions and recessions we had during that time, none of the lasted more than three quarters and all of them had fully recovered GDP loss with a year of the end of that recovery.

 

Sure. If you consider solving the Financial Crisis a bs political reason....

Exactly! With no regard whatsoever to the potential environmental risks. As I said: Trump and his cultists are unable to visualize anything in the future beyond a couple of weeks.

I don't care if he gives a damn or not. I only care that everything he did ended up benefitting them.

It's funny that a Trump supporter would be so "vigilant" about somebody caring or not about the American People. The hypocrisy is just too obvious.

 

It's hilarious how you repeat exactly what I said... And I bet you don't even notice. Because you didn't read (or read but didn't understand) what you were responding to. That's the most certain way to end up looking silly.

 

No. Im saying subsidizing is corporate wealth tax cuts are not.

 

First that was my statement to begin with. 2nd the point of which is that without even trying they did better than Obama.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/14/whi...ob-gains-for-black-americans-under-trump.html

 

Trump should NOT get credit for low black unemployment.
So don't give him credit for it. Simple.

 

It's his M.O. He throws out these garbled off-the-wall comments at people and when they ask him to clarify he claims he 'won' something. It's very bizarre.

 

You're wrong, of course. We still have to pay for the roads, the court system, security, educated workforce, .... all the things that Corporations receive. If they don't pay for it, you pay for it.

 

Ridiculous and irrelevant comparison of apples and oranges.

Bottom line, my point stands: only Obama and FDR have taken us out of a financial crisis of this depth with policy.

 

Nonsense both took us someplace we scarcely needed to go. And took longer to recover than similar depressions when the government essentially did little more than tighten the government's own belt. Neither was really interested in solving the problem which given a bit of time would easily take care of itself. What they were interested in was increasing government power which both did.

 

I think that in addition to closing the gender gap and closing the race gap, we also and mainly need to close the wealth-and-income disparity gap in order to realize genuine gains. And I think it goes without saying that the median income needs to catch up with the inflation rate since as far back as 1985.

The question is how this can happen when corporations are not going to let their bought politicians bring it about since corporate profits are slipping so badly that they have to buy back their own stock and merge to boost "profits".

 

While I think that your entire premise is nonsensical, I took the time to look at the numbers. What I found is that African Americans have had a 28% reduction in their unemployment comparing May of 2016 vs May of 2018, while whites have had a 16% reduction in that same time period. This DOES represent Africans Americans being "Sped Along". I am sure you must be very happy to hear that this is the case.

I must say that I am surprised you didnt look into those numbers prior to starting this thread.

https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000003
https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000006