Trump Showing More Signs He'll Run in 2024

Now you’re deflecting to a different question. You started by asking

I have you the answer. To make it even more simple for you:
1. Identify every single individual voter when they vote, and add up the number of people who have voted.
2. count all the ballots for each candidate, and the total number of ballots cast.

If 1=2, the kind of fraud you’re talking about can’t have taken place.
These things are a matter of public record so by all means, please identify any voting district in America where 1 is significantly different from 2.

I’ll wait, but I certainly won’t hold my breath.

 

Yeah, but that wasn’t even the claim. It wasn’t about replacing ballots but adding more. Which would be caught in a heartbeat.

 

DeSantis: 2024 presidential bid speculation 'purely manufactured'
'I hear all this stuff and honestly it's nonsense,' said DeSantis

DeSantis' remarks also come on the same day Fox News confirmed that Trump will travel to Iowa in October for a rally, marking his first trip back to the first-in-the-nation caucus since the 2020 election, raising speculation as to whether he will seek to return to the White House through the 2024 presidential election.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/desantis-2024-presidential-bid-speculation-purely-manufactured

 

One the reason Republicans lost the election, because they are convinced that people voted against Trump because they "hate Trumps personality".
Even if Trump was the sweetest person on the world I would vote against him - and here are only some of the reasons:

His management of the fight with corona virus was the worst in the Western world

He supported China after his family benefited from China's investment:
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/5/15/17355202/trump-zte-indonesia-lido-city
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...on-china-trademarks-donald-trump-zte-reversal

He is a pathological liar, he lies even if he don't need to do it:


Trusting the KGB officer (Putin) over CIA/FBI reports (I think this is the first time in the world history that a president prefer to trusts his ex-enemy instead of his own security apparatus)

He was destroying America economy by reducing tax cut 14% for himself and his wealthy friends and for American workers only 4% - he increased our national debt

He betrayed our allies Kurd giving a lousy explanation that "Kurds didn't help us on WWII on the D-day

He tried to destroy American democracy by claiming without any evidence that the election was stolen and then by not responding fast enough on Jan 6.

 

The left tried to overthrow a rightfully elected president for the last four years. They didn't succeed, that is until the 2020 election. Just sayin.

 

I didn't call anyone "idiotic." I was referring to the talking points. Very bright people will embrace totally idiotic talking points simply to push a narrative that's on their side.

Uh, they were a mob, not a highly trained rebel force. Part of the reason those talking points are idiotic.

 

Translation: The only way to save democracy is to imprison our political enemies!

 

I don't think Covid will have anything to do with the 2024 election. You can't keep blaming Trump by then so there will be no media point to bringing it up. Otherwise though I agree that the GOP, barring some sort of black swan event or candidate, is done at the national level.

 

That was the Democrat's plan and it backfired on them. They are now stuck with a VP who is both incompetent and unlikeable. If the VP candidate is such a great pick, that should be who is on the top of the ticket. Why vote for Trump if you figure he's going to age out of the job during his term like Biden did?

 

You are referring to the district databases in massively democrat districts controlled almost entirely by democrats. Right?

If so, on what grounds should I trust said database simply because the democrats tell me that it’s all good.. While at the SAME time they’re using every measure to block verification of those numbers?

 

No. I’m referring to all the districts, precincts and states, many of which are controlled by GOP and trumpsters.
You asked a question. I answered it, showing that your presumed method of massive fraud couldn’t possibly happen.

 

That’s completely false.

Let’s assume in these democrat districts where Biden got a GROSSLY disproportionate amount of votes someone introduced fraudulent ballots and manipulated the database.

How would we know without a signature verification audit?

 

I wonder if they will stumped on the issue of age. One argument against Biden running was his age, Orange Jeus will be able that age if he decide to run for 2024. But, then again, he's a super genius that somehow became that way because his uncle worked for MIT.

 

And manipulated “the database”? You mean the voter rolls?
That would mean somehow suddenly adding thousands or tens to f thousands of false names to the rolls. Both parties have access to the rolls. You don’t think GOO canvassers would notice that?
Or if you’re talk about some other kind of manipulation, that would mean the number of counted votes would hugely outweigh the number of registered voters.
I’ve shot down your theory. Proved it couldn’t happen. But I’ve come to learn that believers in the Big Lie are not very well acquainted with reality.

 

No I mean if they fraudulently included 20,000 ballots, they just needed to adjust the database to add 20,000 people who didn’t vote. They know who voted. All they have to do is tick the names of 20,000 who didn’t vote in the database of registered voters. You don’t have to ADD voters. The database has the names of ALL registered voters. Once you’ve notated all the ones who voted, the rest (the 20,000 fraudulent votes) can be safely selected as having voted as well.

 

And where did this happen? According to believers in the Big Lie, there must be millions of votes across the country. Where exactly did this happen?

I’m sorry but this is just a fantasy.

 

But at the end of the day YOU DONT KNOW and neither does anyone else because the democrats refuse to allow us to check.

 

It’s not that difficult. Biden’s numbers came from 10-20 counties across the country. He underperformed in traditionally small democrat districts. Yet he GROSSLY overperformed in the massively large democrat districts, especially the ones where they created mail in vote super centers that included many districts.

The democrats created those amalgamation of districts to make it easier to hide their cheating.

But again, you don’t know and neither does anyone else because the democrats refuse to allow us to check.

 

At least now you accept that you don’t know if the election was “stolen”. That it is just a pure belief - an article of faith - unsupported by a single shred of evidence.
I’m sure you find it more comfortable to live with your fantasy than to face reality. I’ll leave you to it.
If you truly believe in the Big Lie, you must also logically believe that there is really no point in voting.

I encourage you to put your money where your mouth is, and refuse to vote in elections that are, in your view, rigged.

 

Of course. As long as you acknowledge you don’t know if it was fraudulent or not. I’m fine with that.

 

I agree with the status of Trump, but Biden does need to do better.

 

I acknowledge that there are robust - very robust - systems and procedures in place to prevent and identify fraud. Systems and procedures that have oversight from both parties. And despite that, those systems and procedures didn’t turn up a shred of evidence of the kind of massive fraud that you assert.

So although I am open to evidence to the contrary, the current evidence is that there was not massive fraud. The current evidence is that Biden won fair and square, and there is no evidence to the contrary.

 

Were you referring to the current 20 year high inflation or the hundreds of Americans left behind in terrorist's hands.

 

Dropping double digits in approval rating to the low 40s with a VP at 38, you might want to reconsider that thought.
Seems his highest voter support in the history of US presidents just got buyers remorse.

 

Indeed. Can you imagine a likable and competent Democrat who's also not a dick?