Trump threatens 20% tariff on all car imports from the EU

He can do that. But if he does he needs to get Canada and Mexico at the same time or they will just go thru there. And of course when he does that he gets GM, Ford, and everyone else at the same time. Net result? Inflation, and job loss.
Maybe if we could survive a couple of years of readjustment it might work, but when you look at the numbers we sell about as much stuff offshore as we do locally.

 

And yet they are going into effect. Seems like if they were illegal, as you claim, someone on the left would sue to get an injunction to stop the president. Perhaps his trade authority is so clearly spelled out in congressional legislation that no court will take the case? Why isn't Democrat leadership in congress stopping this?

 

It isn't just me that is claiming it. The Constitution says this is a Congressional power, not a Presidential one. Congress's current lack of backbone does not change what the Constitution actually says.

 

worked 250 years ago when america was weak and alone in the world. Why not make it work again?

It was the EXACT opposite. WW2 and things like lend lease and the marshall plan that helped establish the massive trade empire and network of alliances that made America the richest most powerful nation in human history. It was looking outward that made America great. It was with a helping hand to others that created all those foreign markets to both give and receive the products of american ingenuity and productivity. It sure as hell wasn't navel gazing protectionism.

That worked MAGNIFICENTLY in the realpolitik of the past 75 years or so.

sorry that is simply nonsensical rhetoric.

I violently agree. the corollary is also true. ignorance protects stupidity.

 

The constitution says what ever the supreme court says it says and that court has not stopped Trump. How do you explain this?

 

Yay!!! You helped!!!

 

I just want a Corvette, a 67 SS Camaro, 77 Trans am and a GTO. G20 for daily runabout.

I think I might not be environmentally friendly lol

 

I like your footprint!

 

It hasn't gone to the Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court has ruled in the past that Constitutional powers cannot be delegated. Still trying to pass off European cars as a national security threat? Look out! Right behind you! A VW!

 

So you don't actually know if what Trump is doing is "illegal" or not because the Robert's court hasn't ruled on it and, correct me if I'm wrong, but no case seems to be pending. Why don't you sue the president in federal district court yourself? Its your right to do so.

 

"The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises . . . " But keep trying to sweep the Constitution under the rug. At least it has some entertainment value.

 

You should sue to stop this travesty of justice. Force the country to bend to your will!

 

A member of Congress should sue, since they have the best grounding to do so. And it is funny that you talk about forcing the country to bend to one's will while defending a President who is abusing his office and claiming the power to unilaterally levy taxes without Congress just by pretending that VWs are a thread to national security. Again, at least this all has entertainment value.

 

Congress can transfer the power but it would require a constitutional amendment. Delegating is different in that the president is to act on behalf of congress within the confines layed out by congress.

Its like when manager delegates tasks to various employees. The manager is still the ultimate authority but those employees have some authority in completing those tasks and can lead the team within the limitations given by the manager.

 

But the Supreme Court has repeated ruled that a true/full delegation of Constitutional authority is unconstitutional. "That which is delegated cannot be further delegated." They have only allowed it in cases where it wasn't true delegation and where the other branches were acting as an assistant to the branch with the original powers. In this case, Trump isn't acting on behalf of Congress or within any confines laid out by Congress. Congress isn't exercising any kind of authority at all here. Though, yes, they could transfer their powers with a full Constitutional amendment.

 

No you should do it...do it yourself. Stand up as an individual and speak truth to power. Force these this travesty of a president to do what you want. You say he's abusing his powers and many would agree with you stop hiding on a message board and be a David Hogg. You can do it!

 

Seems fair, what's the EU's tariff on US cars?

 

This is a big tax grab. It is US consumers that pay the tariff .. not Europeans. At the same time the counter tariffs will hurt US industry.

 

It used to be that European cars were better, it is not the case anymore.

 

I don't own one but I hear no end of troubles with BMW's from friends who do. ... and the cost of fixing is way high.

 

From memory the EU charges 10% tariff on US cars and the US charges 2.5% on EU cars.

 

I believe there's also a difference in tax structure that makes the export of cars more difficult.
Something about a value added tax or something.

 

I agree US cars are crap. My last one was a Jeep wagoneer ltd. The 4l engine was amazing but the body and electronics were crap. I now drive German cars that have superior engineering and reliability.