Trump to recognize Jerusalem as Israeli capital

No I don't think terrorism is legit, but the Zionists did form their own terrorist gangs in 1920-1922 .. Haganah, Stern Gang, Irgun and of course Avrham Stern, Hitler's pal in Palestine.

 

Protestants are free ... I don't recognize myself in what you're presenting here. First of all I don't know who Chris Hedges is [is this a tremendous trouble? Will I have to face some duels? ].

Then, some of my best friends are Muslims, but from Senegal [this has to be clear]. I knew Muslims from Morocco and Egypt, but they are not that open mind and free as the Senegalese ones. So I prefer the Senegalese. For accuracy I add that an Iranian carpet seller is a nice elder who I know. Have you got Muslim friends? [you can avoid to answer, not to make this too personal].

It's a partial joke. Actually I find that the Senegalese model works, while other Muslim countries know social models which are not that effective and efficient.

 

More nazis and japanese died in WW2 than Americans, what does that mean? That the US was the aggressor? Facts, use them occasionally.

 

Just like the muslims do to the jews today:

https://www.memri.org/tv/antisemitic-sermon-jersey-city-imam-aymen-elkasaby

"FRIDAY SERMON AT JERSEY CITY, NJ: IMAM AYMEN ELKASABY PRAYS TO BE MARTYRED ON THE THRESHOLD OF THE AL-AQSA MOSQUE, WHICH IS “UNDER THE FEET OF THE APES AND PIGS”"

https://www.memri.org/tv/antisemitic-demonstration-in-malmo-sweden

"DEMONSTRATION IN MALMÖ, SWEDEN IN PROTEST OF U.S. JERUSALEM DECLARATION: SHOOT JEWS, THE ARMY OF MUHAMMAD IS COMING BACK"

 

What a Great funny fairytail.
Go visit Ramallah .. the city is packed with beautiful shops .. restaurants .. malls .. everyone is eating Baklawa .
We are really fed up with the Palestinian wall of lies !

 

It's from wikipedia.

 

And that's one of the reasons why there will never be peace in the Middle East. Terrorism is being justified today because of events in 1922, or any other historical remembrances passed on from parent to child through the centuries, and that sort of craziness will never end. The only way these hatreds may ever be reconciled is through an absolute war. Not a war of terrorism, murdering innocents here and there, but bombs and the whole lot. If a people can carry on hatreds over many centuries there is no room for any optimism at all.

The West democracies suffered terribly from German initiated wars but those any recriminations common at that time have stopped. Hatreds passed on from one generation to the next only exist in very backward cultures.

As Golda Meir is alleged to have said,"“Peace will come when the Arabs (or Muslims) will love their children more than they hate us.” It's clear they have not yet reached that point and, what's worse, don't seem to be moving at all in that direction..

 

I don't think we set out to colonize Japan or Germany.

 

As Golda Meir is alleged to have said,"“Peace will come when the Arabs (or Muslims) will love their children more than they hate us.”

More really hateful jingoism. You should be ashamed and never repeat such a thing.

 

Are you kidding me? The European Jews have been steadily pushing Arab and Christian Palestinians off the land for 70 years.

 

In fact Democracy was introduced in Japan and re-introduced in postwar Germany. Of course there were those at the time who insisted that neither of these cultures could handle Democracy, but they were clearly wrong. They said the same thing about attempts to have Democracy take hold in Iraq but it was largely sabotaged by Muslims outsiders, especially after December of 2011.

 

Huh?? Do you need evidence?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_suicide_bombers_in_the_Israeli–Palestinian_conflict

http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=479

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/palestinians-get-saddam-charity-checks/

You've been advised a few times to do some research before you post and you really should take that advice to heart.

 

I never even mentioned anything about either way that in the post. Why not respond to what was actually posted rather than things you only think were posted?

 

Where is your source? Please provide one.

 

this is the problem.
the arabs think that as time passes it gets better for them.in reality it is the otber way around. each time they refuse, they lose some more

 

By the way, Germany is too shifting eastward...

The Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung has been propagandizing the most basic Eurasian stance against the US. Merkel is so weak to turn it back despite the Eurasianist views still got way to go to get in full control of things in German leadership.

What's actually surprising is Macron's distancing from the status quo of the European liberal democratic line.

 

Indeed it has occurred to me that this situation could propel what Dugan plans for Europe - that would be all of Europe except the UK being part of Russia's Euroasian Union with France and Germany both centres of power. He prefers the UK stay out and isolated with the US as he believes the UK being an small island will always have liberal views.

With the UK leaving the EU through Brexit and Trump's declaration on Jerusalem likely to cause a change of alliances, this opens the door for moves in this direction. Time will tell but people are naive if they believe the political situation we have at the moment is set in stone. It could easily change.

 

Neither Dugin nor do his theoretical plans have any power to draw a road map for countries like UK... UK has a very deep state tradition that it reacts right on time in the best possible way, just as its cousins across the pond.

I agree Dugin is good at predictions. He usually bases them on facts but he can't control shifts in Europe. He's not even in full control of his own administration yet. There are still tons of Atlanticists in Kremlin and they are still influential...

 

It wasn't a prediction, it was what he wants. His ideas have been embraced by Putin and Russia has been supporting the far right in Europe to try and destroy the EU which certainly was seen as the first step.

I believe we are at the moment at an unknown juncture. That has been created by Trump's declaration of Jerusalem not West Jerusalem being the Capital of Israel. Everyone opposes him on that. The US is completely alone. How it plays out is yet to be seen but that is one possible option.

 

Are you kidding me? The European Jews have been steadily pushing Arab and Christian Palestinians off the land for 70 years.

Saddam gave money to all shaheeds.. (witnesses) That means anyone who has lost homes, land, friends or family to Zionist ambitions because they were Palestinians.. That is the truth that the propagandists are lying about.

 

And Muslims have been stealing Christian and Jewish lands for centuries. So what? The fact is that we are either going to resolve this situation now or there will be widespread war and chaos, with the usual suspects in the forefront. The Arab leaders, and all Muslims, need some intelligent leadership which can unite these two forces and negotiate some moderate way froward, but that is unlikely to happen.

Instead there are disparate groups with their heads and hearts in previous centuries trying to negotiate in the modern world. That does not bode well for their future.

He certainly did but that wasn't the point of your previous questions, was it? It was your claim that Muslims never sent their little children on suicide missions when most people know that indeed they did. That they would accept payment from Saddam Hussein, and be celebrated locally for doing so, gives an indication of the culture the civilized world is having to deal with.

 

The big lie is that Saddam paid the families of suicide bombers.. but that's fairly typical.. The European Zionists have demonized the Palestinians in the same way Hitler demonized Jews.. Any lie, repeated often enough, will suffice.

 

Incorrect.

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=129914&page=1
After 50 minutes of fiery speeches praising Saddam and Arafat and vilifying President Bush and Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 25 Palestinians are called to the stage one by one. Each is handed a check — a gift from Saddam Hussein.

Each recipient is the mother, father, wife or other close relative of either a suicide bomber or someone killed in a clash with Israeli soldiers or security guards at settlements in the Gaza Strip or West Bank.

Today's donation: a total of $285,000

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/saddams-suicide-bomb-funds/
Congressional investigators say Saddam Hussein diverted money from the U.N. oil-for-food program to pay millions of dollars to families of Palestinian suicide bombers who carried out attacks on Israel.

Investigators who have been following a money trail say the former Iraqi president tapped secret bank accounts in Jordan - where he collected bribes from foreign companies and individuals doing illicit business under the humanitarian program - to reward the families up to $25,000 each.

Documents prepared for a Wednesday hearing by the House International Relations Committee outline the new findings about how Saddam funneled money to the Palestinian families.

Investigators examining the oil-for-food program felt it was "important for us to determine whether the profits from his corruption were put toward terrorist purposes," committee chairman Henry Hyde, R-Ill., said of Saddam's well-known financial support of suicide bombers.

 

The lie is that they were just the families of suicide bombers.

 

Just to be clear, are you claiming that Palestinians didn't use their children, or any children, as suicide bombers?
These are the people the civilized world has to deal with.