Trump: Total Failure

I don't recall saying that he would be able to make the right decisions now. What I was trying to convey is we cannot go back in time and have him do something different than what he did (downplay the virus). As with all humans, the ONLY thing he can do is acknowledge his role in what went wrong and TRY to make better choices today for a better future. He may or may not do that now that C-19 is more than something "virtually nobody gets".

I hope he makes good decisions now and in the future but only time will tell if that actually happens.

 

Remember just a week or so ago when Trump was asked about a lack of social distancing at his rally and he explained it wasn't a problem because he was on stage, away from the audience? IOW, it wasn't a problem for him and to hell with the audience. His blindly obedient followers who he has no regard for. The same people he called disgusting.

'He's not actually looking out for you': Ex-Pence aide Olivia Troye assails Trump's coronavirus response
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...tually-looking-out-you-ex-pence-aide-n1240683

"Troye said it was "embarrassing" when Trump suggested that people inject themselves with disinfectant to help combat Covid-19 and she confirmed that Trump said in the Situation Room, "'You know, when you're a politician, you have to shake a lotta hands. You have to shake a lotta hands. And these people are disgusting. It's gross. And so maybe COVID — COVID's probably a good thing, right? I don't have to shake hands. I don't have to do that anymore.'"

 

I don't see how he cannot drop out of the race now, but then we are talking about Trump.

You would think this would be the final nail in any trust in this president, but we are talking about the Zombie Apocalypse, so it would not surprise me to hear of Trump supporters voting for the undead.

I refuse to join in the giving of well wishes to Trump. He brought this on himself. I feel sorry for the WH staff and personnel who have to work under his misguided protocols and to them I will give my well wishes.

Trump can battle covid on his own. I got your bottle of bleach right here.

 

Possibly. The other "elephant in the room" is many staffers are probably infected and all of them may not survive. So, this is a much bigger thing than him having a mild case or becoming immune.

And, with both parents testing positive, is Barron okay? He's young so he's not in the high risk group which should work in his favor if he's infected.

 

And Democrat Ralph Northam, a doctor no less, got it as well. That is what happens when you have people coming and going.

As for Trump, I am a little suspicious. going from negative to symptomatic and positive in one day seems to not mesh with most people's experiences with COVID.

 

Why?
If Biden tests positive next week, will you say the same thing?

 

Well, Trump supporters used to blame homosexuals for getting Aids, so.....You tell us.

 

Hey Arkanis.

When did the goal of the social distancing and closing the economy change from "Flatten the Curve" to outright prevent the spread?

Hint: 2020 Election.

People gonna get sick. That's what viruses do. And then we develop vaccinations, and then they mutate. Then they go dormant, and then they start infecting again.

This is life. Since when do we shut down the whole flippin country, trying to prevent the spread, rather than dealing with it like we do every other virus?

Hint: 2020 Election.

 

I heard this morning Barron tested negative. I would think there are plans to move him out of the WH to live with some other relatives, but that's what normal people would think, who knows what the Trumps will do.

 

Hopefully, they do that for him. Barron is probably ready to get out of the WH at this point.

P.S. Your posts make me laugh sometimes.

 

And, of course, like most of the rest of the crap Trump is accused if saying, he never said that.

 

Hint, Trump didnt wear a mask. Hint its not about stopping the spread its about not being incompetent in insuring you dont infect others..

Aids an herpes dont kill you you want that too?

 

And, of course, the "Flatten the Curve" theory assumes the same number of people will catch the virus, just over a longer period of time - which means, roughly, the same number of people will die.

 

You're right; you didn't say that; but your sentence seemed to indicate that you thought so. I apologize if I misunderstood you. As you say, time will tell...

 

I think you misanderstand the concept of "flatten the curve". Imho, the concept was a) to prevent saturation of hospitals; b) a prerequisite for decreasing the curve and avoid a significant number of deaths. That's what happened in many countries of the world, before the new surge at the end of the summer.

 

When given the opportunity to show class, many show schadenfreude.

 

Trump wasn't in office when AIDS was the thing.

 

His supporters existed though..the same people that thought, and still think that way, are the same people that voted for him now.

 

I said:
...the "Flatten the Curve" theory assumes the same number of people will catch the virus, just over a longer period of time...
This is to avoid saturating the hospitals.
So.... no. I understand perfectly.
Point remains: the area under the curve - the number of infections - remains the same.

The curve, by its nature, decreases in its own.
Any reduction of deaths is a function of available ICU treatment of people who might survive, which to a degree was increased through flattening the curve -- X number of people were going to die from the virus no matter what, and so flattening the curve only reduced the number of people who had a chance, but only in an ICU.

 

I am not sure how a nation survives for over a year without people going back to work. The supermarket shelves were very rapidly emptying. The government can't just keep sending out stimulus checks. Without the necessities of life being on the shelves, those checks just become worthless pieces of paper.

When democrats try to blame the deaths on Trump trying to open the economy back up, they are not thinking it through. Until we get a vaccine, the virus is going to still be out there and with that attitude, they cannot get going back to work for many more months.

This brings me to the vaccine itself. There needs to be some shortcuts for this vaccine. When a thousand people are dying every day, we can afford to take a little extra risk that there might be some side effects. The vaccine might even kill a few people, but as long as it is less than around a hundred thousand people, we are still coming out ahead because they are saying a fully tested vaccine will not available until 2021. That is three months and nearly 100,000 deaths from now.

 

It's too late for a national lockdown, unless the situation is out of control.

And we're not that far off.

There should have been a national policy put in place by the President with the collaboration of the Governors.

That has never been done for the reasons we know. Trump is incapable of working with anyone, let alone Democrats.

The 'national interest' does not exist in his vocabulary.

 

There can be a national policy suggestion - the states get to do what they think is best for their populations and FedGov cannot force them to do otherwise.
You people seem to think the President is a dictator.

 

"collaboration of the Governors"
And yes..the government does have the power to remove your freedoms. So keep going around spreading filth and they will do just that.

 

None of that says I was wrong about anything I said.

 

What about them?