Trump Victory Thread

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by theferret, Nov 9, 2016.

  1. Sharpie

    Sharpie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You noticed that did ya? The Internet was not invented yet.
     
  2. theferret

    theferret Well-Known Member

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    Pay attention, genius. When folk like you spew this anti-immigration BS, you FORGET your immigrant origins and all that entails. My ancestors were brought here as slaves by yours....you had instances were some native nations/peoples recognized this and married some into the fold. So in other words, don't mouth off unless you're willing to walk the walk as well.

    And newsflash, Native Americans don't all stay on the reservations your ancestors forced them on. As true Americans, they can do whatever they want....attend college, become doctors or construction workers, etc. Capice?
     
  3. theferret

    theferret Well-Known Member

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    As usual, our neo-Nazi friend here has a revisionist view of history. For the record regarding libertarians and the military:

    https://www.cato-unbound.org/2013/0...ry/libertarian-case-national-military-service

    An only bigots and neo-Nazi's seem to think that a business who wants a license to serve "the public" has a "right" to discriminate against any part of the public they choose. Since there is no law that is designed to designate what part of the population is NOT worthy of equal rights protection (and the South lost the war, ya know), law abiding, tax paying citizens can walk into any establishment that serves THE PUBLIC and expect to be served. Period. This is especially important for areas that do not have more that one establishment within easy reach, as allowing the bigots to have their way would encourage de-facto segregation, monopoly, etc. Don't like that, LEAVE! No one is stopping you.

    And since with all the gun laws (which have been around in various forms since the 1700's) still does NOT prevent a law abiding home owner/citizen from getting a gun (depending on various state laws), all that blather about banning of guns is just that...nonsense. Mind you, a guy in the 1700's wasn't allowed a cannon on his front lawn, ya know.

    Once again, FACTS and LOGIC put the kibosh on neo-Nazi rhetoric.
     
  4. theferret

    theferret Well-Known Member

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    No blanket statement....where have you been for the last 8 years? For your education:

    http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/republicans-unprecedented-obstructionism-by-numbers

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-weigant/a-complete-timeline-of-re_b_4074372.html
     
  5. theferret

    theferret Well-Known Member

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    No, I knew this crap was coming the second the DNC screwed Sanders. But YOU (and if not you, a hell of a lot of his supporters) can't afford a night in one of Trump's hotels...so how the hell does he stand for you?

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    Don't get cute...you're not that good at it. Comparing a spray tan to a man's physical being..how stupid is that?
     
  6. ChrisL

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    What does that have to do with anything?
     
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    You constantly amaze me. I'm sure you're one of those types who thinks of themselves as better than they actually are. Newsflash: One Libertarian's approval of the military, does not make up the entire philosophy of Libertarianism. Take note in that you're the only one who would try to oppose common understanding of Libertarian theory.

    Hell, your very article has a DISSENT at the bottom. If you had stopped to say 'Some Libertarians support the military', then you'd have a point. But you tried to sell it as some consensus ROFL.

    But let's not stop there, let me school you on the "general public". If your theory were correct, then every citizen would have the lawful obligation of taking someone in their home. Because their homes exist on 'public property'. But we find that this ISN'T the case at all. We find that such a thing would be called trespassing!

    So, what makes commerce different? What makes commerce different are the licenses handed out by law from the federal government, 'authorizing' the business to make its sales. And that license, carries with it rules and regulations. Which is where the civil rights act comes in(See: The Fair Housing Act for an easier to understand concept of the same thing.)

    Yes, that's right. The business is not owned by the Federal Government, contrary to the president. They did build that and earned that, in a 'mutual' contract with the government. That's what the CRA is, in a nutshell. So we find once again that you have very little understanding of what you're talking about.

    However, in 2016, there's no longer a need for these "civil" protections. Because by and large, money is no longer concentrated by race(even if you argue successfully that a disparity exists.). And most businesses would not act in a racial manner even without the said rules. They'd be losing billions in customer sales. My position is with the Libertarians with regards to the CRA. Wonderful idea, but it ended up being too restrictive and unnecessary today.

    Of course, these discussions are for the big boys. You're better off stomping on NY with the other kiddies.
     
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    It was a joke.
     
  9. After Hours

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    Hell, it was Trump who said he loves the uneducated.

    Don't blame me for what your messiah said.
     
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    What Dems did under Bush or Reps did under Obama? Depending on who you talk to, it's either obstructionism or effective policy opposition.

    But to give you something that I think we may agree on, I believe the situation with the backlog on justice nominations is completely uncalled for. I'd like to see things changed such that a nominee to the supreme court or a circuit court would have to be voted on within 100 days. That's more than enough time to vet any candidate. The idea that such nominations can be tabled indefinitely is completely crazy; we should be able to count on an up or down vote taking place in a reasonable amount of time, no matter who is sitting in the Senate or in the White House. Both major parties have been guilty of playing this game, and it should stop.
     
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    Why? Is it an unbiased, authoritative source?
     
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    If it's ignorant, it's easy to challenge. You don't fit in that coalition? I bet a dollar to a donut you do.
     
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    True, the GOP did a lock step negative on the ACA....save for the one or two who abstained from voting, and stuff like this https://www.healthreformvotes.org/congress/roll-call-votes/h285-112.2011. So in part, I stand corrected.

    You "guess", you "thought" doesn't cut it, my chuckling white supremacist friend. For your education: http://www.factcheck.org/2014/04/skyrocketing-premiums/
     
  14. theferret

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    So when you can't answer the questions, you merely throw a bunch of supposition and conjecture against the wall hoping some of it will stick. Typical smoke blowing by the likes of you.

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    Really? Because he's already watering down his stance on the key issues folk like you rallied to. Check the news sometimes. It ain't gonna be like you wish, pal.
     
  15. theferret

    theferret Well-Known Member

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    Your personal experience has NOT been most of America's. You should get out more, because obviously you missed out on the results of the near depression under Reagan, and how things have declined since then. Hell, Nixon's 5 year plan was touted to screw up the economy for 30 years by some experts back in the day. And Trump in his private life DID NOTHING TO CHANGE THIS. Since the vast majority of his supporters can't afford to stay one night in one of his hotels, I'm amazed they bought into his BS. But they will now see what reality is.
     
  16. theferret

    theferret Well-Known Member

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    Obviously, you have NEVER had to be hospitalized, gone to a doctor for a thorough physical or just go through dental cleaning and X-rays. For the rest of us humans in the real world, these things would put a serious kibosh on any "savings account"...and have! Oh, and since you're never sick, you don't have to worry about paying for a prescription without insurance....you can thank the Shrub for those prices.

    Bottom line: you purport a fantasy that tries to gloss over the points I put forth. Sorry kid, but that dog of yours won't fly.

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    You don't know what you're talking about. Here, for your education: http://www.factcheck.org/2014/04/skyrocketing-premiums/
     
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    Coolness!
     
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    one definition.
    a person who is dictatorial =no congressional approval=illegal EO's=Immigration=pen and phone.
     
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    theferret Well-Known Member

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    Translation: Another libertarian blowhard who couldn't logically or factually defend his position, so he blows smoke in faux sarcasm.

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    Given his failed business ventures, bankruptcies and gaming the system, he and his cronies won't cop to such.
     
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    theferret Well-Known Member

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    How in the hell does Obama build a system that was COMPLETED BEFORE HE WON HIS FIRST ELECTION! Unless you have valid documentation to prove such, you're just making stuff up!

    your first link doesn't work, and your BS claim that everyone is corrupt and therefore all your accusations are valid is nonsense, since YOU can't provide FACTS to the contrary.
     
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    Well genius, a Lakota is an Native American Indian tribe part of the Sioux Nation from the Black Hills of South Dakota( Sitting Bulls tribe) hardly an immigrant. There is not one instance in recorded history where a Lakota Indian brought any slaves from Africa into this country. Not one. News flash! The Lakota's had no navy. Read a book.
     
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    I lived the "near depression" of the Reagan years, 2 years after Reagan took office I could finally buy my first house, one I was ready to buy in 77 but couldn't because Jimmuh Carter's policies had interest rates at double digits so we had to wait. The only "depression" in the Reagan years was liberal hand wringing. Reagan's policies created 25 million jobs and they weren't at Burger King.
     
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    Good for him, he's too much of a gentleman to prosecute a lady when she's down, and as for the wall, I've said all along that a fence would be better..:)
     
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    Tell me friend which gun laws in the 1700's were they? I know of only 3, 1 Illegal to sell guns to Natives and 2 all homes MUST have a firearm. 3 some states (southern) made it illegal for slaves to own a gun. The 2nd amendment was ratified in 1791.
     
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    You might want to blame yourselves for

    not being able to defend any of your policies.

    "All you got" when confronted with an opposing view

    is shut up, you're a racist.

    Oprah speaks her mind and your side demonizes her.....

    I could go and on.

    Most of the left has turned into Nazi's that use violence to intimidate.

    You are losing power and you will continue to do so with the vile tactics you use.

    Long Live President Trump...
     

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